man i just found this site, worms way. and they have alot of hydroponic and indoor lighting for decent prices. i bought some panda plastic (black and white poly) made by sunleaf who's products i also am taking to liking i got these 3$ scissors for trimming and they are just great. for 3 bux! they also sent me a 150 page catalog that has GREAT description of every product they carry, not just manufacture description but also their own advice about the product which is unique. request a catalog, there is more in there then on the actual website itself! just wanted to put it out there that they got some great stuff, good prices, and quick shipping w/ saturday delivery.