Okay ladies and gents, I need something explained to me... Why is it that it seems like women are VEHEMENTLY against marijuana much more than men are and also in the face of a plethora of studies and data still refuse to stop making such a big deal out of their boyfriends or friends smoking it? I don't get it at all. It may be a local thing but I've noticed that basically all my friends who toke get girlfriends and they hate weed. For no reason. Now I can say that because I used to be VERY against pot. I hated the shit. Absolutely hated it. I made a friend who didn't pressure me into doing it but showed me study after study, documentary after documentary and anecdote after anecdote and it changed me for the better and eventaully turned me into a more critical thinker and more open minded person... Point being here is it seems like women don't care what data there is out there, what they were told as small children by thier school or parents or DARA hold on to those convictions without so much as a shred of reason. Why?
Just to offer a counter-example my gf loooves weed. We smoke together all the time, and have a really good and happy relationship. She gets annoyed when I talk about it a lot because its something I am passionate about, but she even gets all her friends to smoke with us too. You just got to hang around in the right circle of friends and you'll find lots of women who smoke weed. There are just as many if not more guys vehemently against it as women, they just aren't as vocal about it. I had a friend who I grew up with and we always used to smoke and chill, once we went to different colleges he turned into a self-righteous holy roller, (went to christian college & made christian friends) and essentially said he resented me because I smoke pot and was experimenting with mushrooms and shit. Some friend huh?
Just realized I totally didn't address the question you were writing lmfao. It is likely because women tend to be more vocal than men when it comes to bringing up / expressing certain issues. (No disrespect ladies just something I noticed.)
Haha nah man you hit the nail right on the head. You make a very good point too. Everyone has opinions and some are just more vocal about it. This is bound to be sexist and also keeping in mind that I have limited experience with women but I still seem to notice that they're almost immune to logical thought when it comes to almost everything. I don't mean that to be condescending I mean to say that they seem to be much more quick to get angry with you when you try to them they're wrong or something and no matter how much sense you're argument actually makes they see nothing but their emotions...?
I think you better take a closer look at generally what women truly hate, because I think it has less to do with weed itself(dangers of smoking, etc.) and more to do with what weed turns the average boyfriend into. How many of you have girlfriends that got pissed at you when the latest FPS game came out for your PS3/Wii/Xbox/PC and you proceeded to take the entire weekend and play it for 30 hours straight and ignore her? How many of you have girlfriends that got pissed during football season because you spent the whole day watching playoffs and ultimately ignored her? Not saying that it happens to everyone. Just speaking from vast years of experience that there's usually more to blame than the Xbox machine or FOX broadcast schedules when it comes to women/girlfriends being "against" something.
Well said sir. I am a lucky SOB cuz my girlfriend loves watching football too. But I wouldn't say weed turns people into something other than what they are. All the ladies I know do HATE video games though, only game my girl or our one of our lady friend's ever was okay with watching was Assassins Creed, go figure right?
Heh, lucky you with the football! As far as weed turning people into something they normally aren't, consider this: Given the option, if the average young guy had access to unlimited supply, he wouldn't be at work. He would be sitting couch-locked at home baked out of his mind, watching Family Guy or porn, and eating Cheetos and ice cream...ALL DAY LONG. The average girlfriend/woman, given the exact same option, probably wouldn't. You can't tell me that weed has not changed a man if an argument has ever started with "all you ever do is sit around the house and get high..."
Well I suppose your right in some regard, sitting around the house all day getting baked is pretty fun once and a while but I don't know how long I could just do that day in and day out, but I suppose that's because I'm a sativa guy myself . Sativa + Vape = Can't sit still and need to do something real quick lol
In the case of my relationship, this is the opposite. I'm the the one who brings logic to dispute/arguments, and usually no matter what I say, my boyfriend will be angry until he doesn't want to be angry anymore. It doesn't matter how valid everything I say is, or even if he sees the logic. He will be stubborn, and won't come around/ apologize/ finally understand until he's ready. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes not so much. and to Rami, Some of us hate watching guys play video games, because WE want to play and not watch... I can't speak for other people, but I know that, in regards to tokinIT's post... I love a lot of the same things that men do, but I'm all about moderation. I love gaming, but I will sit down, play for an hour or two, and be ready to move on to something else for a while. RARELY will I ever, plop my ass down and waste away an entire day devoted to just one thing
What age are you talking about. I'm 18 and from London, all girls my age are all very accepting. I smoked with my last three girlfriends (all of them for their first time). Although it's just the age isn't it? Experimentation and all.
i think the reasoning is because women as a majority are irrational, and most men are rational.. without this being a topic about sex, the major problem is that the person in question is just ignorant, stubborn, and irrational did i mention people like this make me sick
^ Wrong. No gender is any more rational or irrational than the other. It really has nothing to do with them being women. They're just misinformed. There are a lot of misinformed people out there. Believe me, there as just as many boyfriends who can't stand that their girls smoke. It's just not something that gets heard about as much because, let's face it, there are more male stoners than females. That's starting to change now, but I feel that even when women are smokers, they tend to be more hush hush about it than men. There aren't as many women who smoke regularly as there are ones who smoke on occasion, or just at parties, etc.
well this was my opinion.. so if it's wrong, it's wrong in only your eyes... misinformed = ignorant whether it was on purpose or not remember when i wrote this... "without this being a topic about sex, the major problem is that the person in question is just ignorant, stubborn, and irrational" see, you chose to exploit what you thought was wrong, rather than seeing the message, hence irrational i didn't make this about females.. the OP did, i was just expressing an opinion
I never said that misinformed doesn't mean ignorant. I was saying that there are just as many men who are against marijuana and would have a problem with their girlfriends smoking as there are men. So, your faulty logic in calling me irrational was uncalled for. Probably more, since even some male stoners I know wouldn't enjoy their girlfriend smoking as much as them, and either would prefer she not smoke at all, or only occasionally. There are a lot of people out there like that.
When I have had a problem with weed vs. girlfriend it was either because a) at the time I was very bad about choosing to do other things rather than smoke weed or b) she didn't like it not because it's a drug but because it's illegal. To be honest a lot of the girls I know who are against weed are against it because of its legality, and most of the guys I know don't give a shit about legal/illegal, even the ones who don't smoke it's because they're not into it or they have asthma or whatever. My fiancee and I smoke all the time together, and yeah she says she's going to quit when we graduate but she's not forcing me to quit with her. Honestly if your significant other (male or female) is against you smoking they probably just want you to be more motivated or more attentive to them or more...something. Chances are if you can show them the growth they want then they won't give a shit if you're still smoking unless they really have a stick up their ass about it for some particular reason.
well then you can certainly see how when i said ignorant, and you said misinformed that we were agreeing on something. i didn't make this about sex, and you attacking my opinion to tell me "how the world is" without comprehending my message doesn't make you irrational. so I APOLOGIZE for calling you irrational, I meant to say DENSE.. my faulty logic.. lollerskates!!! and if you think neg repping me (the noob) cause you can't have an online debate without getting your feelings hurt makes you powerful, lulzroyce baby!!! name calling isn't allowed here.
This topic could go on forever. Some of the comments in this thread are re-dic. Has anyone thought of the idea that maybe stoner guys don't always go out with stoner girls, and therein lie the dissonance? That maybe sometimes stoners get themselves into relationships where they are caught between their significant other and their pot, which makes their relationship with pot that much stronger? The girlfriends can come and go, but the pot will always be availabe. I think alot of this issue deals with inherent insecurity within relationships. I would definitely say that is age, and immaturity. Most 18 year olds who are not mature are still coming out of their parent's reefer madness tutorials, if you catch my drift. Now, a 24 year old, may have a different idea or two. Yes, women have that whole menstrual and child-bearing capability thing that brings about a whole lot of wonderful hormones. You can thank them for allowing you to breastfeed and feel nurtured when you were young. Most men are not rational. That's a joke, no offense. I think both sexes are capable of being completely rational/irrational. I think what you might have meant to say is that women and men think differently and operate on different methods of logic, to put it nicely. If you think about traditional views of men and women, it was un-lady-like to smoke for a really long time. Some of those customs are still deeply embedded in our collective social unconscious, kind of like a theme modern women have rooted deep in their brains. That can also have something to do with it, IMHO. I also just read an old study that said women are more likely to have a harder time stopping smoking, so maybe this likelihood propels such circumstances as well (i.e. fear of latching on to pot because it lessens self-control, etc.)