Why capitalism is the best! :)

Discussion in 'General' started by bkadoctaj, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. #1 bkadoctaj, Feb 8, 2009
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    Yeah... see the poll.

    Just to be clear though, this was just a thought exercise. Feel free to lay your opinions out here.

    Here's a song to illustrate my basic angle:

  2. I would say competing brings out the better efficiency. Competition gives you incentive to make a better product.

    There are flaws in every system though.
  3. I think people who are upset over others making a lot of money are just jelous. Example: I ate dinner with my uncle's friend and he was convinced that Jews are running the world and are the richest people...and he elaborated on how it is corrupt and unfair and so on. The whole time he was talking I thought to myself, "He wouldn't be complaining if he was the one making the money." I guess I just feel like someone is going to do it, and if you cant beat them, join them. Just my 2 cents.

  4. Let's hear an exposition of its flaws. ;) We're talking about why capitalism is BEST.

  5. Yeah, eventually the competition buys out the opposing competition, and they get so big that no small beginning business can compete anymore.

  6. So, was the EU on our side, or Microsoft's, with the anti-trust ruling?

    Or is this an example of the illusive capitalist dichotomy that justifies itself?
  7. It all comes down to money whether its capitalism or socialsim.

    Pink Floyd -Money

    Money, get away.
    Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
    Money, its a gas.
    Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
    New car, caviar, four star daydream,
    Think Ill buy me a football team.

    Money, get back.
    Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
    Money, its a hit.
    Dont give me that do goody good bullshit.
    Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
    And I think I need a lear jet.

    Money, its a crime.
    Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie.
    Money, so they say
    Is the root of all evil today.
    But if you ask for a raise its no surprise that theyre
    Giving none away.

  8. Is humanity inseparable from money? Or was this only true in the past?

  9. Humanity has always relied on "money", imo when people traded guns,food,tobacco,etc., its was no different than us today trading pieces of paper, or trading the paper in return for something.

    So yes i think humans are inseparable from the concept money.
  10. why its the best? each thing on your list made appreciate the merits of socialism and made me appreciate the arguments against capitalism.

    care to explain the weed selling thing a little more

  11. Is that only because concepts are inseparable from humanity? :p Think first.

    But the difference now is this: the state monopolizes money production. What does that mean?

    Is it really just capitalism vs. socialism? Is there nothing else?!

    But I'm glad that my words affected your thoughts.

    And about the weed selling... well, I just meant that you don't sell weed unless there's a profit, right? :p
  12. #12 blazedandcrazed, Feb 8, 2009
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    you dont do jack shit unless thier a profit (reward), so ya selling weed (working) is the way you get the profit (reward) which is good (drugs, cars, steak and cheese subs, strip clubs, booze, ect.), but thats true under pretty much every economic system. every economic system i would want to live in anyway
  13. As long as humans can think intelligently, then they develop concepts in their minds right?:confused:

    And to your second point, i think it means the the state determines how much access people have to it (money).

  14. Okay, well, distinguish socialism from what we have. :) This isn't a trick question, I just want to hear how you picture it would be different from what we've got.

    I disagree with the profit motive. You might say there's no choice, but you might also realize that with your current situation, it makes sense. That doesn't make it a universal condition of necessity though, in my opinion.
  15. This country hasn't seen capitalism in a long, long time

  16. Elaborate.
  17. Its kind of hard for me to say capitalism is good while there are people starving, without home or under poor working conditions because of capitalists who would rather make money then help a fellow human out.
  18. #18 kinetic being, Feb 8, 2009
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    Do you think that a collaborative society could produce greater "results" than a competitive society could?

    I think that if man collaborated on projects, rather than competing, we could achieve much greater results.

    This ties in with a "moral" that I hold strongly, that information should be openly and freely disseminated to anybody who wants it. I'm very proud of things like OpenCourseWare (free college courses) and GPL-licensed software (free as in free beer and free as in free speech), as well as the countless outlets for free media on the web.

    Now that there is an infrastructure like the internet, free and open dissemination of all kinds of information is more feasible than ever before.

    Maybe, one day, we could learn to work together, instead of working against eachother...
  19. #19 blazedandcrazed, Feb 8, 2009
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    ^^^^ is that the trick answer?:D

    i edited my answer i think it a satisfying rebuttal to the infamous cryptic doctaj rhetoric

    i still havnt voted btw

  20. What would it take? This is where we separate ideals from realism.

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