Why Are We So Upset? After All, There Are Relatively Few People In Federal Prison Just For Marijuana Possession.

Discussion in 'Marijuana News' started by claygooding, May 26, 2013.

  1. #1 claygooding, May 26, 2013
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    Why are we so upset? After all, there are relatively few people in federal prison just for marijuana possession.
    Pete Guither / DrugWarRant / 5/26/2013
    That's the mantra we here over and over from the apologists for bad policy like Kevin Sabet and Keith Humphreys.
    Of course, this argument has so many holes in it you could drive a SWAT team through it.
    • Most marijuana cases are handled at the city or state level, not federal local level, so federal prison isn't relevant [nor is state].
    • Possession is an extremely imprecise term. If you possess enough so you don't have to go to a criminal dealer every week, you're considered a criminal dealer yourself, and if the small amount you posses happens to have roots attached to it, you're a kingpin.
    • The larger argument that this statement is part of (the status quo just needs some tweaking) assumes that the way to fix a bad law is to simply convince authorities to enforce it less stringently, which is bad policy and ends up turning our justice system into some kind of nationally sanctioned Russian roulette. (Who gets caught and has their life ruined and who gets to be President?)
    Additionally, you don't have to go to jail to have your life ruined, as thousands upon thousands can attest.
    Harmandeep Singh Boparai has an outstanding article: America: What's more harmful, pot use or incarceration? in the Alaska Dispatch.
    In it, he talks about lots of real life people where a simple arrest with no jail time for marijuana possession has callously and thoughtlessly ruined lives.
    Definitely worth reading. Preferably by those who mindlessly chant the title to this blog post.
    A couple of days ago, I tweeted the following:
    Naturally, I got no response.

    .@RafaelONDCP @ONDCP @KevinSabet What do you propose for majority of non-problematic marijuana users? Arrest? Mandatory treatment? Other?
    And this is one of the most glaring problems with the third-way-ers. Sure, the notion of treatment instead of jail for those who need treatment is a good one. But that doesn't let you off the hook for the vast majority who don't need treatment and who are damaged by arrest more than the drug use.
    You seem to want us to believe that your policy talents are so limited that you are incapable of crafting policy and law that is narrowly tailored.
    Well, then, step aside and let some people take over who can.
    Note: Just as a reminder, this post is only talking about the demand side. The third-way-ers also have a huge blind spot when it comes to the supply-side devastation we face throughout the world.

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  2. #2 claygooding, May 26, 2013
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    21 million people arrested for marijuana crimes since the inception of the ONDCP,,21 million people forced to live as second class citizens for the rest of their lives in states with strict cannabis laws,,21 million people that could become the homeless late in life when they can no longer work to support themselves because they don't qualify for public assistance,,21 million people denied the education and training that would make them more productive citizens all for being arrested,,not imprisoned,,and to prove how big a failure the war on drugs is,,,Obama could be a future homeless if they had caught him when he was choomin with his homeboys,,,talk about a facepalm moment!!! :bongin:
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  3. #3 JoeVullion13254, May 29, 2013
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    Heres what he isnt mentioning. The black market and home cultivation for personal use. I want to there to be legal regulated safe market for me to get my marijuana and not have to rely on criminals. And I want the right to grow it in my home. Under the current laws in every other state but Colorado, growing a single plant could get you life in prison!

    Is that what Kevin Sabet wants????

    Under Kevin Sabet's proposal to marijuana, you wont have any rights!

    You wont be able to possess any amount of marijuana without going to jail, getting fined, getting forced into treatment and your marijuana confiscated.

    You wont be able to grow marijuana in your own home for your own use. Its a felony punishable by up to life in prison in every state except Colorado!

    You wont be able to go to a store and buy marijuana. You would be forced to deal with dangerous criminals off the black market for your marijuana.

    You wont have the same rights for using a safer substance than alcohol.


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