White Widow trait, or mold? Problem Solved!

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  1. #1 MrSwEeTcHeEkS, Sep 16, 2010
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    Is this MOLD or just a trait of the white widow?

    Black light test resulted in NO green. the area in question turns light purple reflecting the light from the black light.

    Area around looks healthy and great, no discoloration, etc

    Had some buds from a previous grow (different strain) that looked similar, but assumed it was mold, and discarded. May have been the wrong decision, but those buds were so heavy they were leaning against the mylar, that's why I assumed it had molded.

    What you guys think?
     

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  2. Looks Like mold to me, but Ive never personally seen it , So I cant say for sure !
     
  3. lmao how can it LOOK like mold if you've never seen it? lol

    but thanks!
     
  4. Ive never seen it in person. On my own plants.
     
  5. Same here, never seen it in person (not the cannabis kind anyways), but that looks like a type of mold to me.
     
  6. FYI, one source says...

    It seems that "Infested marijuana often darkens in color and becomes crumbly. Anaerobic bacteria turn marijuana into brown slime. Marijuana undergoing rapid decay may feel warm to touch. ... Tufts of fungi are often visible in mold material. In marijuana stored in darkness, strands look white to light grey. Exposed to light, storage molds spawn millions of colored spores in velvet clumps. A slight tap sends these spores into great billowing clouds. Generally, _Rhizopus_ and _Mucor_ produce grey-black spores; _Penicillium_ species are light blue-green; and _Aspergillus_ species are dark green-black." *2, which provides identification for penicillium, aspergillus, rhizopus, mucor, anaerobic, and generally what to look for (colour change, warmth, tufts, spores).

    It also seems that it is possible to check for aflatoxins using a black light *2. It seems "Material contaminated with aflatoxin-producing _A. flavus_ will fluoresce to a green hue under ultraviolet light."

    and the other...

    You can identify mold by looking closely for black spots, dark green spots, white/grayish stringy matter or other unusual coloring. The mold will also noticeably effect the smell of the marijuana, turning it a more musty and unpleasant smell. Mold spores sometimes resemble the crystal looking trichomes that naturally occur on marijuana which can cause some novice users to
    mistake signs of mold for characteristics of higher grade marijuana. The best way to identify mold on marijuana is to view it under a black light. Mold spores will appear a distinctive green hue when put under a black light.

    As stated before, blacklight test showed NO green, and area around the spots as you can see look fine. You guys still think its mold?
     
  7. looks like a kind of web, maybe its from bugs??? esp if you got it on another plant, different strain, and different grow.
     
  8. Dude you totally just took that out of context and used in in a backwards thought process. It says "Mold spores sometimes resemble the crystal looking trichomes (It says mold can look like trichomes, not that trichomes can look like mold) that naturally occur on marijuana which can cause some novice users to mistake signs of mold for characteristics of higher grade marijuana." What I see there doesn't look like trichomes at all, I can see the trichomes, they're fine, what I see there is a "white/grayish stringy matter", which is what your post says can be used to identify mold.
     
  9. Maybe, I have saw quite a few knat looking bugs flying around in there, I have done all I can to catch them, but from time to time i still see a few.

    However, i haven't seen any around the area.
     
  10. Don't all weed have trichs? so what do they mean by higher grade pot?

    White widow is by default a higer grade pot, I guess i was taking that line to mean some traits of higher grade pot could resemble mold.

    ok, and the blacklight test?

    Im not trying to argue with you at all! The only thing Im saying is the only two ways to tell if its mold or not, are saying its not. I appreciate your help I do, but you even said you've never seen it yourself, so how can you be so adiment that it is mold?

    I guess by nature I don't want it to be, so Im gonna have to be definitive before i scrap what could potinetially be good weed.

    either way I do appreciate your help!
     
  11. Im growing WW myself and im 4 weeks into flowering and i dont see anything like that on my girls...i hope its not mold..
     
  12. OMFG is anyone gonna pull their head out their...



    ITS SPIDER MITES!!! duh... jesus christ lol kill that bud before it infects the other ones i hate noob growers that try and sell me sh!t with spider mites in it... You might just be carryin an a$$ whoopin if u sell that to the wrong guy, peace man
     
  13. looks like spider mite webs too me....lol:eek:
     
  14. Would only smoke that if blind folded and a gun pointed at my head...LOL..:smoke:

    WW will get a snow effect if grown with proper nutes and care but, that's not snow on those buds.
    Pretty much a waste of good MJ and could have been avoided...:rolleyes:
     

  15. Well thats what I thought as well, but I can't find a single trace of them... only the nat like guys. And as far as your noob comment, what the F is that about? Im not a noob, nor do I have space for a PERFECT grow room. Ive spent ALOT of money taking what little I have and doing the best with it!

    How about this, how about STFU! you have know idea what your talking about, and you show it by adding a worthless post. You have no idea what could have been avoided, what nutes I use, nor how much "care" I put in. 85% of marijuana is reported to have mold in it, so take your smart azz comments somewhere else
     
  16. Seriously people, I want to get to the bottam of this! I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm, but in this case I believe I need someone who has dealt with this before PERSONALLY.

    If its mold...
    Then why are the 2 common test for mold both failing?
    (black light, and decaying arear around imfection)

    If its spider mites...
    Where are the little guys hiding?

    If its a trait of the strain...
    Then why is it on random areas?

    People I get it, MORE THAN LIKELY its a problem, and it will be cut out, BUT WTF is it for sure? My humidity gauge doesn't read to be to high, I have the best circulation possible for a non ventilated closet, the water is R.O. water, the nutes are measured and replaced to the degree, Pest control is the best I can do without spraying on some harsh chemicals. Im doing everything I can!
     
  17. #17 colafarmer, Sep 17, 2010
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    Did we get your panties in a wad today...LOL...In the first place this smart ass knows the difference between mold, mites and snowy trics. Obviously with all your experience why did you even ask???
    Yes mold can be avoided by keeping the humidity down in a GR etc and if it were pests they make these nice microscopes so you can see the insects that you can't see with the naked eye so you know what to correct before it's to late......

    Man we know it sucks to lose a crop this far into a grow and it's to really to bad but, don't take it out on people commenting and trying to help....:rolleyes:
     
  18. How did you try to help? oh yea, saying you wouldn't smoke it with a loaded gun to your head... NO wait, it was the part about it was a waste of MJ that could have been avoided... No thats no good either, come to think of it I don't see how you helped at all!

    As far as the panties, good one! more valuable comments, but for your information, its a leopard thong!

    Why did I ask? easy, I wasn't sure if it was powdery mold, or spyder mytes, or something else. I checked everything I could BEFORE I even posted to try and figure it out by myself, but everything Ive read says its neither! Thought I could turn to the GC community for more expierienced growers, but instead I got you.

    btw, I know your the shit and all, but you dont need a microscope to see spider mites!

    Dude, I really don't know where you came from, and I don't care. I just wish you would go back, and leave the helping people up to the ones who really want to help. GC is a great place to be, and has the most valuable members of any forum Ive came across, but once in a while a troll pops up, hijacking threads with wasted comments, sarcasm, or just plain negativity. Anything they can think of to get their post count up.

    Welcome to GC!

    P.S. thanks for editing "stupidity" out of your comment, I think we are making progress!
     
  19. That is mold. Sorry about your crop, spores are probably present even where the 'fluff' itself isn't visible. This will happen to any bud if it's not dried in a ventilated enough area, or if the buds are too close to the walls or mylar during growth.
     
  20. The most common test for mold is visual, anything beyond that will only tell you what kind, or kinds you possibly have.. when you see mold, and there are thousands of common types and millions that are less common, that's the best indicator.


    What you have growing on your buds is not marijuana, that's what you're really asking, correct? Or did you want to know the exact species. If that's the case, your only real definitive option would be to collect a sample and send it to a specialist or university to test for you. Type in a pic search on google or another engine for mold, you'll see many varieties but yours is fairly common, the white fluff can happen where circulation is lacking.

    Hope this helps, and again sorry about your troubles, in the future just keep the plants spaced apart and let none of the buds cluster against each other or the walls when you can help it :)
     

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