whats so bad about a new world order.

Discussion in 'Pandora's Box' started by GreenTheGiant, Mar 29, 2012.

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    Some men want to watch the world burn, some want to start a new world order.

    Two edges of the same damn butter knife.
     
  2. Can you explain what type of anarchy your taking about. From the little i know about anarchy it seems like thered be factions hoarding resources from other factions and constant tribal type warfare.[/quote]

    Governments' main job is to convince people that they need them. Governments are a man-made social structure made for self-benefit and contrary to popular belief, they are not necessary for a safe, functional society. Imagine if everybody had the right to defend themselves and no state to rob your money or liberty. Complete freedom. Sure, if governments disappeared overnight, chaos would surely arise in spots. But after that initial wave, we can have the most free, prosperous society ever on earth. It just requires everybody to be on the same page about respecting others liberties and property. With the current forms of communications connecting us across the globe, it only makes sense that ideas spread quicker and wider. It is possible for everybody to get on the same page, but it requires a lot of work for those already living and the generations thereafter. Certain unmentionables can open anyone's mind to the possibilities, however those who fight it will never find truth.
     

  3. I don't think that's true at all. If you look back far enough you'll find points in mankind's history where government did not exist, and it was terrible for everyone. There's a reason society tended towards government, because even if it is imperfect it is more stable and prosperous.

    If there was no government we would be fragmented and probably subjected to much worse subjugation than what we face now, given that some group will find a way to prosper and oppress the remaining masses.

    Human nature is too greedy for a free society without rulership to work.
     
  4. I bet you if everybody on this planet met Lucy I could prove you wrong. Our nature is what we make it.
     
  5. I believe the majority of people understand the benefit of peace and construction as opposed to war and destruction. Therefore the rule of law would not be diminished in an anarchist state.

    If you are truly interested on the expedient society, check out David Friedman's lectures.

    The NWO would be extremely dangerous. It would put more distance, more money, and more power into the hands of fewer people (by ratio).
     
  6. Very possible, and they may be able to get away with it for awhile. But if they were found out, I believe the people would take care of them like they did the government. At that point there would be no corrupt government defending that group and we, the people, would have our way.
     
  7. You seem to think in this world in which we live the government is for your benifeit.Its not.Its for the benfeit of the ones in controll.

    If they actually were good than it could be a good thing.However here and now that isn't the case.Look at third world countries.The government and its people are like polar oppisites.The government is rich and you see all the normal folks like you and me living in the fucking dirt.

    That's what they want to happen in america aswell.They've been trying to collapse our economy for awhile now.Look at how gas keeps going up and they try and say they can make it cheaper if we just allow them to do this or that.Come on now people researching this kind of stuff have said they wanted to raise gas to around 8 a gallon.

    You have people saying we are a bunch of crazy conspiratists and then you actually see gas going up!Oh but that's just a coincidence.Really guys come on now.Wake up

    Also I seen along time ago about when they wanted to collapse our econmy along with Mexico and Canada and create what would be known as the Amerio.

    On Cnn they have a clip on youtube with two news reporters talking about the amerio and how these conpsiratists actually knew about this.

    Now the Amerio thing could be disinformation but they still want to callapse our economy and combine Canada America And Mexico into one entity.That's not going to happen.Too fucking bad for you guys.

    I think too many people have became aware.Just look at how they wanted to go to war with Iran and the Occupy movement did some Iran protests.Now Barack obama says we won't go in with boots but we can set up measures with there Nuclear advancments.They were developing this for energy production.Not to attack or create weapons.

    If enough people know they can't do shit.They are cowards opperating on a level in which we must be sheep for them to continue.THAT SHIT AIN'T HAPPENING.too bad for them.I hope it does piss them off.Bastards ain't gonna be messing with us too much longer and they know it.
     
  8. [quote name='"MandalaSmoker"']You seem to think in this world in which we live the government is for your benifeit.Its not.Its for the benfeit of the ones in controll.

    If they actually were good than it could be a good thing.However here and now that isn't the case.Look at third world countries.The government and its people are like polar oppisites.The government is rich and you see all the normal folks like you and me living in the fucking dirt.

    That's what they want to happen in america aswell.They've been trying to collapse our economy for awhile now.Look at how gas keeps going up and they try and say they can make it cheaper if we just allow them to do this or that.Come on now people researching this kind of stuff have said they wanted to raise gas to around 8 a gallon.

    You have people saying we are a bunch of crazy conspiratists and then you actually see gas going up!Oh but that's just a coincidence.Really guys come on now.Wake up

    Also I seen along time ago about when they wanted to collapse our econmy along with Mexico and Canada and create what would be known as the Amerio.

    On Cnn they have a clip on youtube with two news reporters talking about the amerio and how these conpsiratists actually knew about this.

    Now the Amerio thing could be disinformation but they still want to callapse our economy and combine Canada America And Mexico into one entity.That's not going to happen.Too fucking bad for you guys.

    I think too many people have became aware.Just look at how they wanted to go to war with Iran and the Occupy movement did some Iran protests.Now Barack obama says we won't go in with boots but we can set up measures with there Nuclear advancments.They were developing this for energy production.Not to attack or create weapons.

    If enough people know they can't do shit.They are cowards opperating on a level in which we must be sheep for them to continue.THAT SHIT AIN'T HAPPENING.too bad for them.I hope it does piss them off.Bastards ain't gonna be messing with us too much longer and they know it.[/quote]

    Whats to say that government isnt for our benefit. Can u give me some proof that its sinister in nature?
     

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  10. Ya and the cities have these "pockets" of cultures. You know you're not welcome when you can even read what the shop offers.
    Believe it or not multiculturism enables racism.

    And about Cuba. Its poor because of the U.S.A. ' s actions and propaganda against it.
    Trust me the peope in control NOW will be the same in control NWO
     
  11. If you want to be a slave and have no freedom then the new world order is for you ;)
     
  12. The enlightened aliens looking above probably laugh at us humans and our theoretical "borders". Eventually they will erase- and if that's a NWO, then so be it.
     
  13. Wat if they literaly mean new world
     
  14. I don't see a NWO happening anytime soon, considering that international conflicts exist all around the world and will continue to exist forever. India and Pakistan, North and South Korea are not going to just stop and fighting and unite under one government. Ultimately if some sort of NWO formed it would turn into a giant power struggle. Countries, borders, and wars will exist as long as people do which is why a NWO will never happen, at least not when any of us are alive.

    A few people in this thread keep claiming that they don't want a government to exist at all and that life would be a bunch of unicorns and roses if it didn't. But that's simply not true. There's a reason that societies have formed governmental organizations for thousands of years. Anarchy is a good concept but in the long run is flawed. It assumes that people are innocent and not a bunch of greedy dicks. Now obviously there are plenty of good people out there but there are just as many bad ones who would rape, steal, and murder with no sort of deterrant. You need some form of control otherwise our society would fall apart. I'm not disagreeing that government has many many faults and that many of our politicians goal is too just expand gov and serve their own interests. This is what happens when you have any group in power. Look at the Catholic Church when it controlled most of Europe, it was twice as fucked up and corrupt as our government. People are ultimately corrupt as I've said before which is why there will always be corruption when you give people power. You need to find a healthy mix between control and freedom because neither extreme works.

    TL;DR NWO is bullshit, communism and anarchy are bad
     
  15. When people think of a New World Order they think more of 1984. Farenheit 451 and Equillibrium and less of the global government that formed in other works like Star Trek.
     
  16. why is that the new world order? Why couldn't the new world order be a hybrid socialism with things like universal healthcare, free education, assured housing and jobs while also maintaining things like individual rights and freedoms. Why does the New World Order have to be the worst thing ever, the closest thing I've seen to a "New World Order" as you describe it is the UK and US right now... I don't honestly see why it can only get worse.
     

  17. Societies formed governmental organizations for thousands of years because it has worked at creating a superclass of humans for thousands of years. Government systems assume that people are there to help you and aren't a bunch of greedy dicks. I disagree, there are more 'good' people than rapists, thieves, killers. Control/order != government. You can have all the control that you make in the world in an anarchist state. How will corruption spring if there is no government to forcefully take your money and liberty? Anarchism is the only way because it gives everybody the same amount of power. Sure, there may be some individuals who attempt to gain power, but it won't happen because the rest of society will balance it out.

    As for your first paragraph, it already has happened, the power of many countries lies in the hands of a few. Please re-establish your viewpoint on anarchism.
     
  18. we'll be slaves...
     
  19. I'm not worried the government will take care of us like always.
     

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