Weed almost twice as harmful as tobacco

if this were true everything about marijuana would be different.

It would not be popular medically like it is today.

Stoners would ACTUALLY have lung issues.

Etc. 

This is pathetic. Plus I never "hold" my hits in, and I use a vape! 

 

I call bullshit.

 

here is the study
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197922
 
it was done on people that were age 30-50 (it says 41 +- 9 years, so in that range), it does not say whether or not these people also smoke tobacco, just that they have been "chronic users" of cannabis for ">1 year" which is in no way a controlled experiment, some of them could have smoked for 13 months, and some for 30 years.... it then says the results of the 10 (yes, only 10 fucking subjects) were as follows..
 
4 expressed dyspnoea, aka shortness of breath
4 expressed pneumothorax, air pockets in the lungs that may or may not inhibit normal breathing, it has 2 forms, one which isnt a disease and isnt much of a problem, and one that comes from a pre-existing disease
2 expressed chest infections, which is common in every single human being on earth, smokers or not
 
 
always research what you read..... it took me all of 10 mins to find this info

 

That article was posted in 2008.

#RedEyeClub

 

^ this is pretty much what I was going to say, these types of studies are always very flawed, usually with sample fields.  Besides most people don't hold hits as long as possible, and there is always going to be extenuating circumstances that the researchers usually don't take into account.

 

 
I posted the study on a government site lol, its a junk study, no actual info, not enough test subjects, inconclusive results
 
NCBI did the study, its government funded bullshit

 

If you clamp down and hold your hits in "hard" for as long as you can, you can damage your lungs and more!
 
“Usual" cannabis abuse producing an unusual incident        (abst – 2007)    
(The Valsalva maneuver is performed by attempting to forcibly exhale while keeping the mouth and nose closed.  Don't do it!)         http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17342632
 
What is even worse, it that toking like that DOES NOT GET YOU HIGHER- except from oxygen deprivation! Your lungs are remarkably efficient! Think how well they do at grabbing oxygen... a second is all it takes! THC is the same- it slips right into your lungs and then into your blood. They did some fairly early studies on "breath-hold" as a function of getting higher. Guess what?  Longer "breath-hold" didn't make any difference in the high!
 
Breathhold duration and response to marijuana smoke.       (abst - 1989)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2554344?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
 
"Typical marijuana effects (increased heart rate, increased ratings of "high" and impaired memory performance) were observed under each of the breathhold conditions, but there was little evidence that response to marijuana was a function of breathhold duration."
 
 
Response to marijuana as a function of potency and breathhold duration        (abst - 1991)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2027922?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
 
"The results confirm previous findings that prolonged breathholding does not substantially enhance the effects of inhaled marijuana smoke."
 
If you are clamping down when you toke, STOP! All you are doing is wrecking your lungs, and depriving your brain of oxygen! A vaporizer would be an even better way of using- no combustion products, or smoke particles, to injure your lungs!
 
 
Granny

 

It's been 5 YEARS since this study was published, I think if it had ANY credibility whatsoever we would still be hearing about it now.

 

I down right don't believe that weed is more harmful than cigarettes.
 
I do however believe the longer you hold the hit in, the worse it is for you.
 
I normally hold it for two-three seconds, then out it goes. 

 

I stopped smoking MONTHS ago, i sold all my pieces too so I didnt have a way to smoke. Ive been strictly vaping since. I used to get bronchitis alot and i guess there is a correlation between daily use of MJ and bronchitis. I actually prefer it at this point, IMHO the only thing I see as a con is the time you need to have to heat up the vaporizer before you use it, but once you get a routine down its so much better!

 

The article was created in 2008, you might as well scribble everything out in that heap of lies


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The taste is so much better too..I love vaping. I get stoned as hell off mine.

 

 
While the article is a piece of junk, you cant just say "oh its x years old, and is therefore irrelevant", it totally is in this case, i agree, but, your argument is based on its age, not its info, which is not how it works. Not all information needs to be new to be correct lol
 
look at the stuff granny posted, which has good sourcing, and is good info, its 6 years old, and then one from 1989.....

 

 
oh i know i was just letting you know i found it so you could read it haha

 

I feel like I have become a taste connoissuer since vaping haha. I have actually talked about hints of citrus and pine lmao. That might be the high taking over but I LOVE the tastes from different strains!