we are the ones we have been waiting for, so lets accept our responsibility...

Discussion in 'Real Life Stories' started by Digit, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. I highly doubt what he is saying is true, I don't believe the government would let all those people die just to start some wars.
     

  2. aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha. yeah, thats funny.
     
  3. The US is actually preparing an intergalactic war with Lord Xenu, led by General Cruise.

    Look, the whole idea about conspiracy theories and 'prophecies' about up and comming wars is nothing but pure speculation based on very little evidence. I seriously doubt, as does phantom, that the US government would knowingly go into a war which will start WW3. Also, the US has a very close relationship with the government of Israel (which I think is a very bad thing) and would not let China 'destroy' them. While power corrupts, I think it is a very illogical and dangerous belief to hold that the people who are running your government are going to try to purposly indanger your lives. It is this thinking that leads to misinformation, ignorance, violence and death.

    Democracy is still alive. It has its flaws, as do all things, and Bush is obviously not the best president ever, and his 'people' leave something to be desired, but I can assure you that this conspiracy theory is nothing more than imagination on a rampage.

    Some might also refer to it as wishful thinking. I've always found it curious as to why people always manage to find the bad parts of people or ideas, exploit them, manipulate truths and present them as if they were fact.
     
  4. so the government is just incompetent then is what you are saying?

    i wanted to think that was the explanation for their actions for far too long too. the alternative was far too horrific to accept. that what they were doing to fuck shit up was actually intentional!

    i recommend reading & viewing on, and getting some more info.
     
  5. I sort of had the opposite experience :D

    I used to believe in wild conspiracy theories, 9/11, alien testing, and i even went through a period of the whole David Icke reptilian-shapeshifting thing (don't ask!).

    As long as people are in power there will always be problems. Personally, I am surprised we have even made it this far as it is in our nature as humans to go to war, i suppose if you wanted to you could look at it as survival of the fittest (i am using this concept loosely). My logic could go on and on about the improbability of an elected government (im sure some would argue on the word elected being used here.) Also, if there truly was a huge conspiracy theory, do you think the government would ever let it be released on google video? I mean think about it.

    If this is true and for hundreds and hundreds of years thy have been plotting to fuck us all over, do you really think they would let people with a webcam and internet connection fuck it all up? I don't think so.

    To loosely quote Einstein, "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and i am not sure about the former." I think its far more likely we have just majorly fucked ourselves because we are an illogical non-perfectly evolved species than the idea that there is a sinister web of puppeteers hiding behind shadows pulling strings.
     
  6. !???!??? it is? holy fuck! guess we're doomed! oh wait, no thats right... you're wrong.

    take a look at these cherries i picked just for you.


    "A tyrant... is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader."
    : Plato - (429-347 BC) - Source: The Republic

    "It is easier to lead men to combat, stirring up their passions, than to restrain them and direct them toward the patient labors of peace." --André Gide


    "What is absurd and monstrous about war is that men who have no personal quarrel should be trained to murder one another in cold blood." --Aldous Huxley

    and the one i set out to find, the real kicker here:

    "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." --Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials


    well, thousands of videos are removed from youtube constantly... all the ones which actually directly pose a danger to their plans. the rest they let out because most of it is inconsequential, or littered with misinformation, misinformation comonly fed by them so as to protect themselves by making the spokesman seem so rediculous it would be dismissed, or sometimes, they let the truth out because thanks to years of totalitarian information management, the truth seems so unbelievable! and also, they let stuff out for the very reason you just said... to convince us they don't exist because after all, if they existed, wouldnt they ban all this stuff? ;):wave:

    or maybe the hour is later than is thought, and complacency has taken root.

    who's been perpetrating the theory that they are out to fuck us all over? i heard it was just a matter of power. and yes... there are some who think it a great idea to kill off 80-90% of the world's population. one of the rockerfellas was running his mouth off about it alot a few years back, dunno if he still does. ever heard of the bilderberg group? i wonder... are they meeting in secret for our benefit? hmmmmm. yeah... democracy is alive, sure. :rolleyes: i've never seen democracy.

    haha, that einstein, he sure had a great sense of humour and wit.

    whether the hierarchy has a head or not, doesnt really matter to the main issue that we are lead and herded around both physically and educationally. that's some programming worth realising is there and then breaking.

    power with will always be stronger than power over. and thats why rome falls 9 times an hour. :D
     
  7. zeitgeistmovie.com

    that's all i have to say.
     
  8. ^ it's got misinformation peppered in it too though.

    ...as does the zeitgeist debunking movie, amusingly. "y'all are bowth wrowng!"

    :D

    worth watchin i suppose... * shrug *
     
  9. When searching for suspects to a crime, it is a good idea to see who stood to benefit the most from the commission of the crime.

    Al Queda has always been a creation of the CIA, and Osama bin Laden is still their #1 double agent. Don't be fooled, nobody but the agency could have planned that attack.

    A parasitical carrion eater like Bush/Cheney will do anything, and the defection of Halliburton to Dubai smells of rats deserting a sinking ship. Taking a half trillion dollars with them. Nothing suspicious there...

    Have you been watching the world's markets? Can you say Black Friday every two weeks, and still say its only a recession?

    Are you ready for Blackwater USA?

    Go Conspiracists! Sound Your Alarms!

    Ask the Native Americans what the US government will lie about to start a conflict. Google the words 'Sand Creek Massacre'.

    Good news is though, that with America's gambling addiction being on the huge, the Tribes will soon have enough in casino profits to buy a large part of it back, from it's new Saudi and Chinese owners. Thank good christian values and vegas style poker, and soon the ghost dance may begin again!

    "I'm waiting for the polar flip and the asteroid smash
    I'm storing up food and tobacco and water and cash
    I'm burrowing underground, down to the mantle to crash
    So deep in the hole that I dug no one sees me, I vanish"


    Back to the Batcave...:smoking:
     
  10. .....your kidding right?:eek:
     

  11. :laughing::eek: hahahaha, ~oh!

    it's so funny, but quite sad.

    hilarious until one considers the human equation.

    chinese and saudi owners. tehehehehe. sau tlue.

    native land back in native hands... it does have a certain nice appeal to it though.... but maybe thats partly because i musta been one of those natives in a past life.

    as much as i appreciate the warnings and prophecies from folks like michael horn, i do prefer (and so should we all, i say), very much prefer infact, the exhoneration of our potential, to put energy into how beautiful we can make this world again, how quickly we can snap awake, how easily we can learn the tools to teach the "young souls" very quickly.

    yes, personal responsibility IS on us.

    but that doesnt mean we each individually have to go it alone. we're "herd" animals. really social folks.

    yeah, the personal responsibility is ours.

    but that doesnt mean we aren't going to be able to get useful information from outside sources.

    yeah, responsibility for our own salvation, is in our hands, no one else is coming to save us. we are the ones we have been waiting for, so now we know, we can stop waiting, because WE ARE ALREADY HERE!

    :love:
     
  12. why does everyone keep bringing up 911. we got attacked, we retaliated. Iraq may not be justified and a lot of the practices in war aren't either, but jesus conspiracy theory or not its already happened and there is nothing you can do.
     

  13. ^ thats the very reason people bring it up.
    because there are folks, (like yourself) who still seem to believe the party line, and repeat it still to this day.

    i am still waiting for america to retaliate against the attackers, but it aint happening, it just aint happening yet. you are all still too busy sitting in your homes letting your attackers tell you daily, things which misdirect you from seeing who is attacking you, so they can keep on attacking you and everyone else.
     
  14. Did you know that it took 2 men to expose the Watergate scandal? A scandal that Nixon himself was trying to stop these 2 men from exposing. A scandal that A LOT of people were ignorant to at the time. To dismiss an idea that hasn't been fully explained, and definitely has a lot of speculation to it, is insane. Do I believe the government did it? I highly doubt it but at the same time, our government has never spared us the annual 4 year ass raping. Besides, you don't want to assure us of anything do you, because in the end, it could be wrong.
     
  15. simply put we need to fight back against authority and government, try peaceful protests and if that doesnt work we need to simply kill the government physically mentally spiritually and every other way we need to destroy it
     
  16. Talk about shoulda coulda woulda all you want, but if you're not doing anything about it, which most of us either can't or aren't willing to do, then please stop complaining about it behind your computer. I mean, if there are people that are actually working to fix things that's great, but that definitely is not the majority.
     
  17. it's true you know not one of the hijackers was iraqi or afgani. they were saudi....

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  18. how much of america is owned by saudis? it's way more than that 7% now isnt it. way more.

    ^ look at them, laughing away. "hahaha, we have to world eating out of our palms, chasing puppet demons we throw into public sight for misdirection and distraction"



    ...so.
    now we all know, or can know...
    ...are we gonna get back to something important, or think we should let them misdirect us once more?

    bloody infidels.

    lol
     

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