US troops out of Iraq by January?

married2mj · Oct 16, 2011

APNewsBreak: US drops keeping troops in Iraq - Yahoo! News

Bout time

married2mj · Oct 16, 2011

Next up Iran

Deleted member 472633 · Oct 16, 2011

married2mj said:

Next up Iran
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You know it! Iraq got old, now time for a new toy, Iran!

Mirvs · Oct 16, 2011

Aren't most of the troops in Afghanistan now? But good news regardless.

Norma Stits · Oct 16, 2011

Mercenaries in Iraq to Take Over Soldiers' Jobs - The Daily Beast

As the U.S. military continues to draw down its forces in Iraq later this month and complete a full exit by the end of next year, analysts say the withdrawal will be a boon for the private security industry, whose employees will likely undertake more quasi-military functions such as defusing explosives and providing armed response teams. “They [private security contractors] are going to have to do everything that we expect soldiers to do without going out on patrols to engage the enemy,” says one former industry insider. “There are some pretty smart number crunchers in all the major contractors who are figuring out how much of this increasing pie we’re going to be able to get.”

What exactly that pie will consist of remains to be seen. During the first four years of the war—the most recent available estimate—the U.S. spent as much as $10 billion on private security contractors, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Yet this occurred at a time when the military employed far fewer than the roughly 11,000 private security contractors that it employs today. Just how many will remain in Iraq when the U.S. leaves will depend on the conditions on the ground. Yet analysts say the number of mercenaries will likely remain stable and could even increase slightly. And, as these contractors expand into new roles, “the price of them goes up,” says Stephanie Sanok, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

An influx of mercenaries will become especially important for the State Department, as the military leaves and as Iraqi security forces—while much improved—remain unable to provide the necessary security for what Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management, calls “a major expansion” of the department’s postwar presence. Indeed, the number of private security contractors employed by state will grow from roughly 2,700 to as many as 7,000. And those figures don’t include the more than 1,000 tasks that state will inherit from the military once it leaves, according to the Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, a bipartisan government panel created in 2008.

These tasks—which include clearing travel routes and driving armored combat vehicles—do not involve attacking, and thus are not military functions, Kennedy argues. But they do potentially increase the chances that “people acting in the name of the U.S.…can get the U.S. involved in perceptions of misconduct,” says a spokesman for the contracting commission.

In recent years, reforms by the Defense Department have increased oversight and accountability and led to a sharp decrease in the use of deadly force by contractors. Yet since the war began there have been billions of dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse, according to the commission—and members such as Grant Green, under secretary of state for management during the administration of George W. Bush, fear that the increased use of contractors by the State Department could result in similar damage to the postwar mission. “They don’t have the planning or the people to do this,” Green says. “The clock is ticking.”
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cball · Oct 16, 2011

hmm...ya, seems we heard the same promises during the last few potus election fiascoes...rinse/repeat

I'll believe it when it happens.

NasaJoe · Oct 16, 2011

Not so fast..

No decision yet on future troop presence in Iraq: U.S. | Reuters

hoboleader · Oct 16, 2011

AugustWest said:

Mercenaries in Iraq to Take Over Soldiers' Jobs - The Daily Beast
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WOW. ya XE services will take it from here. fuck em. I think this will just make things worse for Iraq. The troops will need jobs to i guess. when they get back they can join up with XE services.

Deleted member 472633 · Oct 16, 2011

hoboleader said:

WOW. ya XE services will take it from here. fuck em. I think this will just make things worse for Iraq. The troops will need jobs to i guess. when they get back they can join up with XE services.
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Haven't you heard? The troops will have plenty of stuff to do soon when we invade Iran.

TheAtmansPath · Oct 16, 2011

I'm optimistic guys, don't ruin it with facts and logic

CO Jones · Oct 16, 2011

And into UGANDA!!!

CO Jones · Oct 16, 2011

James2912 said:

Haven't you heard? The troops will have plenty of stuff to do soon when we invade Iran.
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Got do Uganda first. Have to shore up the country so obamas butt buddy in Kenya does not have any problems becoming dictator... Then Iran.

Johnny Cash · Oct 16, 2011

CO Jones said:

And into UGANDA!!!
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I heard they were sending 100 troops... that's nothing.

Phamas · Oct 16, 2011

married2mj said:

APNewsBreak: US drops keeping troops in Iraq - Yahoo! News

Bout time
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married2mj said:

Next up Iran
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yup, they've been getting ready for this for sometime now, been smearing iran, this assasination plot.

dont worry, they'll get out of iraq but they wont go far.. to Iran!

Johnny Cash said:

I heard they were sending 100 troops... that's nothing.
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vietnam started with some "military advisors" too

seriously though.. about fucking time we get out of there.. one shit hole down one to go

DirtyApe · Oct 16, 2011

AugustWest said:

Mercenaries in Iraq to Take Over Soldiers' Jobs - The Daily Beast
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Nice. Imma start breaking the news to wifey....wonder how much these new contracts will pay. Without big Army there, the risks go WAY up and the pay should follow. Hmmmm....

hoboleader said:

WOW. ya XE services will take it from here. fuck em. I think this will just make things worse for Iraq. The troops will need jobs to i guess. when they get back they can join up with XE services.
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Fuck Xe, there are better contracts out there. Xe is no longer the standard.

Johnny Cash · Oct 16, 2011

DirtyApe said:

Nice. Imma start breaking the news to wifey....wonder how much these new contracts will pay. Without big Army there, the risks go WAY up and the pay should follow. Hmmmm....

Fuck Xe, there are better contracts out there. Xe is no longer the standard.
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Are you some kind of mercenary?

xmaspoo · Oct 16, 2011

US military denies decision to quit Iraq after 2011

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon denied reports Saturday that the US military has given up on plans to keep several thousand troops in Iraq after a year-end deadline, saying talks with Baghdad were still underway.

US and Iraq officials have been negotiating a possible American military training mission of about 4,000 troops after 2011, but a dispute over legal protections for the US forces has jeopardized the security agreement.
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In a statement to reporters, Pentagon press secretary George Little denied the negotiations had collapsed, saying the Obama administration had not made any decisions on a future mission.

"Suggestions that a final decision has been reached about our training relationship with the Iraqi government are wrong. Those discussions are ongoing," Little said.

The United States wanted to build a "robust security relationship" with Iraq and the talks with Baghdad were focused on the "nature of that relationship," he added.
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Recent comments from Iraqi and US leaders have exposed a rift over legal protections for American troops, with US officials insisting their soldiers must be shielded from Iraqi prosecutions.

But Iraqi political party leaders have indicated they are not prepared to grant such legal safeguards.
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The U.S. will get it's immunity for the troops, and once that happens we will be needed to provide security again.

U.S. is playing hardball with Iraq, all their is to it.

leanpocket · Oct 16, 2011

This is more than likely a misinformation campaign to have insurgents believe that the tensions are dying down, but in reality you can expect one last major offensive?

DirtyApe · Oct 22, 2011

Johnny Cash said:

Are you some kind of mercenary?
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Nope.

But I did 2 state dept security contracts in Afghanistan. Its a small community and you get to know the good and bad about most companies out there.

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