TSA Directly Violated US Constitution By Detaining Senator Rand Paul

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deleted member 472633, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. he wasn't arrested. arrested =/= detained
     

  2. if he wasn't free to leave at any time then thats being under arrest to me.
     
  3. I haven't read it yet. A troll fest you say? Ghey.
     

  4. Was he read his miranda rights? What were the charges? When does he appear in court?

    You can't just go making up definitions to support your argument. There is a legal difference between being detained and being arrested.

    I think it's highly ironic that those who complain the loudest about corrupt politicians are now defending a clause in our constitution that essentially says our politicians are above the law.
     
  5. #8 Deleted member 472633, Jan 24, 2012
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    Somebody has never read the Constitution.
     
  6. Every politician should be treated as a regular civilian (like unknown politicians) so they know HOW WE DEAL WITH LIFE.
     
  7. I don't even think they are allowed to detain him. He could have just said FUCK YOU and kept walking.

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  8. jeeeeze, this is just an overblown misunderstanding.He forgot he was still wearing his gf's underwear and bra...the underwire, hooks and crotch vibrator set off the alarms....he was soooo embarrassed...
     
  9. None of these things have to do with being arrested. You don't have to be read your Miranda rights when you are arrested. A lot of times no one reads them to you until they begin asking you questions. See the next part for the other two.

    The 4th Amendment of the US Constitution protects against illegal search and seizure. An arrest is a type of seizure. James isn't making anything up. If a police officer holds you longer than it takes to pat down the outside of your clothes for safety and check your ID they need a reason or it's an illegal seizure.

    I don't think Rand Paul is above the law. I just choose not to recognize the TSA as the law.
     

  10. It is. According to law definition, a cop pulling you over and giving you a speeding ticket, is officially arresting you. You do not have the right to leave, it is "arrest".
     
  11. I just want to know, how does one become a TSA agent? What goes wrong in someone's life that that is what they have to do?
     

  12. The legal definition of an arrest in the U.S. is being detained WITH CHARGES.

    Speeding ticket = charges.

    So again I'll ask... what charge was Mr. Paul 'arrested' on?

    I'm pretty sure this doesn't even fit the definition of being detained.

    He was prevented from going through security for refusing a search. At anytime he could have walked his ass out of the airport. He was free to leave... just not in the direction that he wanted to go in.


    They did have a reason for refusing to allow him through security, he refused a search.

    When he voluntarily purchased his plane ticket, he agreed to this. By refusing, he broke the contract he made with the airline, and they have no legal obligation to allow him to board the plane. Senator or not.
     
  13. They have approximately 30 minutes of holding time in most departments guidelines.. Otherwise an arrest or release must occur according to SCOTUS...
     



  14. The cell phone video Tyner recorded of his arguments with security screeners over the scan and pat-down they proposed had garnered than 200,000 hits on YouTube by Monday afternoon.
    Tyner said that after he declined the body scan, a TSA agent told him he could have a pat-down instead. Once the procedure was described, Tyner said he responded, "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested."

    The dispute that followed, Tyner said, included police escorting him from the screening area and a supervisor saying he could face a civil lawsuit for leaving the airport before security had finished screening him.

    In fact, Tyner could face a civil penalty as high as $11,000, according to Michael Aguilar, the TSA's federal security director in San Diego, who defended the behavior of his officers during the confrontation.
    "He's violated federal law and federal regulations, which states once you enter and start the process you have to complete it," he said.
     

  15. That's not true. One can be held without charges for sometimes periods of up to 48 hours in these United States. If you are labeled an enemy combatant, as Jose Padilla was by W, you can be held indefinitely without charges.


    He wasn't arrested for anything, I don't believe the TSA costume has that authority attached to it.


    He most certainly was detained and prevented from traveling to DC which is a violation of Federal Law.


    He didn't refuse a search, he refused to be groped by TSA goons for no reason. No, he has official business in DC...that's the only reason he'd be traveling that direction. ;)


    No. He was scanned, showed them the item in question - his knee - and offered to be scanned again. All fits the testimony provided TO Senator Paul by the head of TSA John Pistole in a Senate Hearing regarding the TSA and invasive pat-downs. The TSA goons apparently weren't on the same page as the head of TSA.


    No one agrees to this, it's a violation of our Bill of Rights that most people submit to unknowingly or people such as yourself defend such actions for God knows why.

    Contract? :laughing:

    Actually him being a Senator, they do have a legal right as per Federal Law and the US Constitution.
     
  16. PS: It's Dr. Paul - just like his dad. :)
     
  17. Article 1 Section 6
     

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