Thoughts?

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by ceballin, Apr 6, 2016.

  1. Hey yall
    So I'm new to growing. This will be my first time. I have an outdoor set up and plan on having 5 plants.
    I plan to grow using Marlenes Magic soil.
    this contains:
    -Organic horse compost
    -Loam
    -5/16" minus lava rock
    -calcium nitrate
    -single super phosphate
    -ferrous sulphate
    - 15-15-15
    - 38-0-0

    I also have a simple gravity fed drip system I plan on using.
    The set up gets plenty of sun and i don't plan on using nutrients. I want to keep it as simple as possible.
    My questions are regarding the drip system. I am most concerned about algae or mold on the roots.
    Anybody got any info regarding organic, nutrient free grows? Or drip systems? Thanks in advance!

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  2. Since these plants detest having their roots sitting in moist conditions all the time, I'm not sure I would plan on the irrigation system. They only need watered when they need it...or when it rains since they're outside. Now I will admit that when they get on up in size and really take off and start to grow, sometimes it seems like you can't give them enough water. But you definitely don't need to start them out that way. Are you going to grow in containers outside or in the ground outside. If you're doing the container thing, you definitely don't need to have water going to them all the time. They'll rot. I know nothing about Marlene's Magic Soil, but I'm assuming it's another organic mix somebody has come up with. I will caution you that this soil is probably going to be "hot" to a seedling and you might want to put a buffer layer in of soil that you know is nutrient free or has less than the mix you describe above. A young seedling doesn't need a whole lot of nutes to live. As a matter of fact, going to heavy on them will only fry your plants. Nutes are meant to be started once the plant has used up the nutes that are naturally in the soil. If that soil supposedly has enough nutes in it to last all the way through your grow, then I would bet it's going to be a bit hot to start a new seedling in. Just read up on the outdoor grow threads on the forum for a better idea and understanding of what your outdoor grow should be like. They are weeds, after all, and have survived for thousands of years without the benefit of man. They'll try their best to grow under the worst of conditions. But be on the lookout for various bugs and critters who would make your plants lunch or dinner. And as they progress on further into the flowering period and the smell becomes more potent, it's almost like a magnet for bud worms and other fun things that can mow down your garden in a hurry. Never touch one plant that has issues and then go touch another as it is very easy to spread bacteria, etc. from one plant to the next. I could rattle on for days, but if you use good basic common sense, you should easily be able to grow one nice harvest over the course of the summer. We flowered off 4 plants last year and didn't put them out until June. We harvested around the first of September or so and harvested well over 5 pounds from those 4 plants. Nothing grows this stuff like the sun. If you can get your part of the process down, you'll definitely come out on the winning end of things. One more suggestion....don't tell ANYBODY...and I do mean ANYBODY, what you've got going. Unfortunately, you can trust nobody these days and who wants to do all that work and worry just to have some snake steal it from them. Good luck and hope all goes well!! TWW
     
  3. Thank you for your input! I really do appreciate it. I will definitely look into the soil more. I am going to use clones only cause I think starting from seedlings could have a lot more problems go wrong and I'd rather do that when I am more experienced. Thanks again for the advice!

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  4. Thank you for your input! I really do appreciate it. I will definitely look into the soil more. I am going to use clones only cause I think starting from seedlings could have a lot more problems go wrong and I'd rather do that when I am more experienced. Thanks again for the advice!

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  5. No till garden is 100% organic and no need for nutes. Just water

    I'm currently switching from bottle nutes to no till garden.
     
  6. I'm growing in containers. My friend was actually talking about no till gardening as well. I need to research it some more but it seems interesting.
    She also mentioned growing plants that cover the soil to conserve water. I think using that with a drip system is a recipe for disaster in regards to mold and whatnot.

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  7. I would definitely add 35% perlite to that mix as it is known to extremely compress as it ages.
     
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  8. I was actually thinking about it. I'm assuming too much perlite would cause it to drain too much water right?
     
  9. perlite is great for many things, drainage, trapping air pockets that the roots use and need, keeping soil or other mediums from compressing which helps your root system grow healthier and bigger roots. Big healthy roots, means your plant will have the necessary throughput to uptake all the nutrients it needs. Marlenes Magic soil.is great but needs perlite to optimize your plants root growth. Yes when using perlite you will have to water more often, but that's a good thing because you do want the water that you supply to your medium to drain away the salts that would get built up from the slow released nutrients that Marlenes Magic soil contains without using perlite. With Marlenes Magic soil, you just have to water n' go, but occasional I would give them a good fish, (something like Neptune's Harvest organic fish fertilizer) or kelp, (something like Fox Farm kelp me kelp you) supplement, and when they go into flower, add some calmag or calmag + every other feeding.
     

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