The Lying Neo Liberal Joe Biden Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Green Wizard, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. At a certain point you have to come to grips with the fact that trump won. I've accepted it and moved on. Biden is a fake president and a turd. Who cares?
     
  2. A crusty hair sniffin nipple pincher, at the very least.

    Shoulda been Tulsi :inlove: I would have tolerated Bootyjudge, he's adorable.
     
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  3. i agree albeit with differing thoughts as to why. I'll succinctly state imo any organized and determined far-right or far-left individuals and groups are a threat to not only democracy but also our very day-to-day lives. i support neither.

    imo trump should bow out of the public eye. the office of the POTUS is far greater than the person sitting at the oval office desk and he does not understand that. he's just a bully. i do not think it will be a good thing for our country if he runs and gets reelected. i will vigorously support an opposing GOP candidate. if trump becomes the GOP nominee i wont vote for him. i dont how better to phrase it that i am not a trump supporter.

    way too complicated a subject for me to briefly comment on.

    This is largely true for the far-left. centrist, moderate, democrats need to distance themselves if they want to survive as centrist, moderate democrats. there are some real radicals in the "democratic party". the GOP had a similar problem years back with the so-called Tea Party, and probably still have some hold overs, but the GOP effectively quashed the Tea Party. Chicago, NYC, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Atlanta. those are some notable cities that fought and largely "won" their efforts to defund the police. look at those cities today - out of control crime, murder, it's ridiculously despicable for those in leadership to have created the problems in those cities and i believe each of them is now begging for new leo recruits (subject to verification).

    I am not well read on this topic.

    no doubt! across the aisle and in the shadows. our current and former government administrations and life-long non-merit positions are certainly financially corrupt, and in some cases rise to the level of morally and criminally corrupt. this is certainly several "cargo containers of crap" i'm po'd about with our government and especially, and sometimes vehemently, so for the actions of the last 21 years.


    Again i think this is multi-dimensional with fault lying on both political sides particularly those "far-right far-left" people. i think Soros is a threat to american democracy. I can name several i consider a threat to our democracy regardless of party affiliation. like every other label "political party" is just another mask to hide behind. some take it serious, others use it for cover.

    i understand. i might suggest you widen your vision without regards to words or party but actions. i see a threat from both sides of party extremism. i believe the far-left people and maybe the far-right people (perhaps they work together in the back rooms - certainly "lobbyist" do) are going after the 30'ish and younger generations. the so-called political agenda certainly doesnt care too, too much about the 50+-something demographic, me and you. they want the children. that's where the biggest social change effort is occurring imo. there are many threats coming from all angles to our country, our republic, our democracy. it's not a simple reb/blue argument.

    Good convo. We have overlapping areas of agreement. i'll try to ignore your "trumpism" commentary as much as possible moving forward. it is cathartic for you and i understand that. i'm asking that you not include me in that category of labels moving forward, and if so we might just find more solid ground to share our opinions about. cheers and salud!
     
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  4. Well hell - that didn’t take long!

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  5. Is this where the fascists hang out? Oops I mean ANTIFA, wait…
     
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  6. Well said.

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  7. Oh, I’m sure its a melting pot - its the Internet. There’s anyone you want to be here.

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  8. We got winners, we got losers, chain-smokers and boozers
     
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  9. Tom Waits?
     
  10. Toby Keith lol
     
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  11. #2731 garrison68, Oct 7, 2021
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    Biden has nominated a graduate of Moscow State University, in the then-USSR, with radical communist views, for the position of Comptroller of the Currency.

    Pennsylvania Republican Toomey requests copy of Biden currency-comptroller nominee’s Moscow State thesis on Marx
    MarketWatch Oct. 6, 2021
    Saule Omarova, President Joe Biden’s nominee to run the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, has come under fire from the banking industry for views she expressed on whether the Federal Reserve should offer individual bank accounts to Americans. Now, a key Republican is seeking more information on her work as an undergraduate student in the USSR.

    Omarova graduated from Moscow State University in 1989 with a degree in philosophy, according to a curriculum vitae posted on the website of Cornell Law School, where she teaches courses on financial regulation. She attended the venerable Moscow university on the Lenin Personal Academic Scholarship, which the résumé describes as “the highest academic merit-based scholarship” available to students in the Soviet Union. (She also holds a law degree from Northwestern University in Chicago and a doctorate in political science from the University of Wisconsin–Madison.)

    Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania wrote to Omarova in an Oct. 5 letter requesting a copy of her thesis, which was titled “Karl Marx’s Economic Analysis and the Theory of Revolution in The Capital.”

    “While it appears that you have deleted any reference to your thesis in the version of your curriculum vitae (CV) that is currently available on the Cornell Law School website, the paper appeared on your CV as recently as 2017,” the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking Committee wrote, linking to an archived version of the CV that cites the thesis title.

    Toomey said he assumed the thesis was written in Russian and would require translation and therefore requested a copy of the thesis last month but received, he said, no “assurances that the committee would receive a copy of the paper in a timely fashion.”

    “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more radical choice for any regulatory spot in our federal government,” Toomey said during a Senate floor speech Wednesday. “I know that is a very sweeping statement to make. I think I can stand by it.”

    Omarova, born in the then–Soviet republic Kazakhstan, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
    Biden has faced a challenge in identifying a nominee to lead the OCC, the regulator that oversees nationally chartered banks, who is satisfactory to both the conservative and liberal wings of the Democratic Party.

    Progressives reportedly thwarted the nomination of Michael Barr, an Obama Treasury Department veteran, calling him too friendly toward large banks. But Omarova’s nomination is no less controversial due to a perception that she’s hostile to the banking industry.

    Capital Alpha Partners analyst Ian Katz predicted in September that there was just a 35% chance that Omarova would be confirmed by the Senate. “We don’t think Omarova would get a single Republican vote,” Katz said. “So in a 50-50 Senate, she needs the support of every Democrat. We don’t see it happening.”


    Pennsylvania Republican Toomey requests copy of Biden currency-comptroller nominee’s Moscow State thesis on Marx

    Biden’s banking watchdog pick Saule Omarova must turn over her thesis on Karl Marx, lawmaker demands






     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/07/reconciliation-vaccines-election-america-dumb/

    How dumb can a nation get and still survive?
    Opinion by Eugene Robinson, Columnist, Yesterday at 4:34 p.m. EDT

    T.S. Eliot wrote that the world ends "not with a bang but a whimper,” but I fear our great nation is careening toward a third manner of demise: descent into lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy.

    How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb? Why is the news dominated by ridiculous controversies that should not be controversial at all? When did so many of our fellow citizens become full-blown nihilists who deny even the concept of objective reality? And how must this look to the rest of the world?

    Read the headlines and try not to weep:
    Our elected representatives in the U.S. Senate, which laughably calls itself “the world’s greatest deliberative body,” agreed Thursday not to wreck our economy and trigger a global recession — at least for a few weeks. Republicans had refused to raise the federal debt ceiling, or even to let Democrats do so quickly by simple majority vote. They relented only after needlessly unsettling an international financial system based on the U.S. dollar.

    Covid-19 is a bipartisan killer. In the tribal-political sense, the safe and effective vaccines are a bipartisan miracle, developed under the Republican Trump administration and largely distributed under the Democratic Biden administration. People in most of the rest of the world realize, however, that vaccination is not political at all; it is a matter of life and death, and also a matter of how soon — if ever — we get to resume our normal lives.

    Why would people not protect their own health and save their own lives? How is this anything but just plain stupid?

    I get it. The GOP has become the party of White racial grievance, and this battle against an imaginary enemy stirs the base. But the whole charade involves Republican officials — many of them educated at the nation’s top schools — betting that their constituents are too dumb to know they’re being lied to. So far, the bet is paying off.

    And then, of course, there’s the whole “stolen election” farce, which led to the tragedy of Jan. 6. Every recount, every court case, every verifiable fact proves that Joe Biden fairly defeated Donald Trump. Yet a sizeable portion of the American electorate either can’t do basic arithmetic or doesn’t believe that one plus one always equals two.

    How dumb can a nation get and still survive? Idiotically, we seem determined to find out.
     
  13. Ahh yes another article calling the people you disagree with dumb and idiotic. Hearts and minds Bk every day you’re winning hearts and minds.
     
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  14. I'm not trying to win hearts and minds.
    I'm trying to combat lies with truth.
    And I know regular posters here cannot be swayed by truth.
    Over and over they refuse to believe their lying eyes.

    But maybe truth will mean something to random visitors to this thread.
    Those are the folks I'm trying to reach, not the usual duped suspects.

    As usual you fail to mention exactly what I posted is false.
    Let me list topics from my post, and give you another chance to say which one(s) you find offensive.

    1. Republicans caved on the debt ceiling limit. Voting to increase that limit is essential to pay for already spent money, not for new budget items that repubs are misleading you into believing. Google it yourself to find out that I'm telling you the truth, and that repubs are lying by omission. Dems were willing to do this on their own, but repubs had threatened to filibuster it.
    2. Vaccinated fox hosts (fox has a vaccine mandate, google that too) are causing americans to remain unvaccinated.
    3. The GOP has become the party of white grievance. According to https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ace-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/ about 40% of dems are non-white (the same as the whole population), but less than 20% of repubs are non-white. Nobody is teaching "critical race theory" but racist repubs rail against it anyway. Racial slavery is an important part of our history.
    4. A majority of repubs believe trump really won the 2020 election, in spite of 60+ lawsuits proving otherwise. When repubs show up in court, they can't lie to a judge like they lie to you. This is the usual tactic of authoritarians, lie about election results.

    Make up lies about what liberals do (socialism, violent BLM protests, sanctuary cities, critical race theory, stolen election, etc. Then criticise dems for doing these things that they really don't do.

    Let me repeat part of Robinson's editorial.
    "this battle against an imaginary enemy stirs the base. But the whole charade involves Republican officials — many of them educated at the nation’s top schools — betting that their constituents are too dumb to know they’re being lied to. So far, the bet is paying off."
     
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  15. Why would I waste my time disseminating your posts, someone else can do that and you can completely ignore all their counterpoints like you always do.
     
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  16. I always respond to serious posts.
    But I might not respond to obvious lies.
    For example, responding to "stolen election" posts is a waste of time.

    The real reason you won't respond is that you have no valid response.
     
  17. Bullshit, multiple people spend the time writing out whole pages of responses backed with scientific literature and its in one ear out the other with you, next moment you are posting anti Trump rhetoric. I don't waste my time with any of your posts except to point out how abrasive and hateful your messages are. I'd have better luck banging my head off a brick wall than to attempt to disseminate your broken record posts about right wingers inherent racism and stupidity, so I just dont bother. What I have to say to you others have said ad nauseum so why bother.
     
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  18. Hahaha you're a freshman or sophmore and you just read some of his work as it's standard reading in 101 english lit courses. full of fresh ideas, a new outlook. :laughing:

    no one quotes TS Eliot lol. how disingenuous. cute but disingenuous "old man" :).
     
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