The 4th Dimension!

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by Picklesnshakes, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. ITT: We discuss alternate dimensions. Here's your primer--

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwL_zi9JNkE"]YouTube - Carl Sagan's Cosmos - Tesseract[/ame]

    Essentially, Sagan is rehashing Plato's old cave allegory with some new modern science thrown in for support.

    What's most interesting though is imagining the plausibility of what he proposes. Consider flatland, and the apple that descends from 3D land; could this be a possible route to explaining the paranormal? As in, what we call "souls" actually exist in an enhanced dimension while our physical bodies are stuck in 3D.

    The hardest part about imagining higher dimensions is what Sagan addresses with the "Well, if there's this 4th dimension, point to it, show me where it is" problem.

    Whether fantasy or truth, the 4th dimension is definitely something I'm interested in after watching that video.

    For more eyecandy, check out this rotating Tesseract. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtSNStVW81M&feature=related"]YouTube - Hypercube animation[/ame]

    Remember, every angle you see would be a right angle in 4D land. It's a mindfuck to fuck all mindfucks.
     
  2. Saw this a while ago and I agree, mindfuck.
     
  3. I watched some show on Discovery HD with Morgan Freeman, and he said that time is the fourth dimension.
     
  4. Through the Wormhole is a great series. I think sometimes that Morgan Freeman is secretly the creator of the universe in disguise.
     
  5. Bruce almighty just makes you look at Morgan differently :p
     

  6. Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions - Lisa Randall -- This is the mother of all multi-diminsional mind fucks.

    Unless you've seen the Twilight Episode (or was it The Outer Limits) where a two dimensional alien visits earth. Oh yeah, that was done on Family Guy too ("Oops, open window." "Oops, crack in the floor.")
     
  7. The forth dimension is recognized as time. There are a total of 12 dimensions.
     
  8. there are an infinite amount of dimensions.
     
  9. Yup.

    I suggest to everyone in this thread that has never read into it, do some reading on String Theory. That's some seriously mind-blowing shit.
     
  10. there's more than one version that each has a different amount of dimensions. I think M-Theory is the String Theory that is limited to 11 or 12. Mainly because you usually want to stay away from infinities as much as you can in math.
     
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  11. I figured that since 4D is TIME. The step up from a cube is a cube that's in the past, present, and future simultaneously.

    Think of it like an atom. It used to be that an atom had orbits, now it's just a cloud of where it was, is, and could be.
     
  12. It works for the orbit of an electron in an atom because it's position changes with time but with shapes they can't really "change" over time because they would become a different shape.

    If the shape is the same regardless of where it is in the "time" dimension then you can't really say it has a time dimension. Well you CAN but it's not a useful term to use, by using the name of the shape we automatically assume that it will always be that shape whereas with the electrons of an atom have an area of probability that they will be in a particular area in a given amount of time. One is dependent on time while the other doesn't require time to exist because it is and always will be the same shape.
     
  13. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA]YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o&feature=channel]YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 2 of 2[/ame]
     
  14. Good point...Fucking hypercubes.
     
  15. I do love this stuff. We really are trying to see the forest from the trees, while standing in the underbrush. :smoke:
     
  16. I think the hardest part in imagining higher dimensions is how we would experience it. Things like sight and smell would only work in 3D, it would seem. What's mind boggling is imagining that there are extradimensional beings that have the ability to navigate through their realities as effectively as we do.
     
  17. I guess you'd have to imagine the impossible. Divide by zero. Throw fire into fire.
     
  18. carl sagan sucks at explaining. this video is way better.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKzQNlMFw"]YouTube - Fourth Spatial Dimension 101[/ame]
     

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