It has occurred to me that Ron Paul is much more than just another candidate. RP is more like an indicator of the American people's sentiments about the political system. He is not some slicked down fast talking lawyer with the same old bad ideas as the others are. RP is a true statesmen and an actual wise man who is offering up real solutions. This is the reason that he has enormous grass roots support. A lot of people recognize that these problems are real and require real solutions. The neo-clones Romney and Perry together can't find the support that RP has got. If RP does not get the nomination this time around I consider it proof positive that the US political system is purely rigged. Just looking at these clones causes me anxiety.
You are absolutely right, and my hopes for the country are always more optimistic when I see Paul on that stage. But, to say "If RP does not get the nomination this time around I consider it proof positive that the US political system is purely rigged." is way too assumptive. Of course RP is a great candidate for the job, but since when does that equal votes? I mean if you really think about it, how many presidents have we had that were actually good candidates for the position? Certainly none of the last 4... The debate polls are nice, but we need to understand what kind of people are voting on these polls. It's early in the season, primaries haven't even begun, and so few Americans are aware there was even a debate last night. The people who are tuning in, who are following politics, who are taking the time to vote on these internet polls are INFORMED voters. They understand the issues and they understand Paul's message. Keep track of the polls come April/March when the primaries start rolling in, and see how Paul's votes dwindle as the voter base increases and more uninformed voters begin following the election and taking time to vote in online polls. That's not to discourage Paul's momentum or his impact on the election, but too many people do not understand what kind of shit our economy is in, and they have NO clue what candidate is right for the job. but...only time will tell so let's keep up the support until then
Im starting to think that until we have a real educations system, people will be voting for shitty people because thats what there being told to do by society. Most people dont put a whole lot of deep thought into it, they just vote for what appeals to them at the moment. I disagree with ron paul and all you damned libertarians on most things, but I am impressed that you damned people actually put some thought into it. That being said, can yall chill out on all the ron paul threads? Doubt it.... I may have to start posting 20 threads a day on chavez or cuba or some shit. Hes can even look into your souls and read your minds, now thats what I call a phenomenon.
How do you create a educational system that teaches kids to vote with their morals and values, rather than with what looks good on tv? EDIT: I don't really believe you disagree with us damned libertarians and RP as much as your claiming. Based on what you want for people through government, i think we agree on a lot morally. We just don't agree on the best way to get there.
Teach them to think for themselves instead of just remembering "facts". Instead of coming up with your own answer to a question, you must pick a pre made answer. The educational system was designed for robots not humans. Sorry, I should of said economically I disagree with ron paul on almost everything.
How do you manage to teach kids to think for themselves, whilst simultaneously standardizing their education, in the name of making it "equal?" It does not seem to me that forcing them to go to a school, which is regulated and standardized by bureaucrats , is very conducive to helping them think for themselves. We even want the same thing economically. But ill stick with the above for now.
Put it up to local school boards too decide instead of having the federal government telling kids what they should learn. You dont need standardized testing in public schools. You want free marked capitalism, I want socialism. How is that the same?
He believes in the almighty Lord Keynes, he has to since Keynesian is the only economic theory that is twisted enough to go against all of the Austrian principles. To break it down simply, Keynesians know one thing and one thing only. When in a recession that means aggregate demand is low and the government must intervene with stimulus in order to fix the demand problem, regardless of whether that creates massive deficits or not. I know it doesn't make sense, but that is the entirety of Keynesian theory about recessions. It's an absolute joke of an economic theory.
I am a socialist...Fuck them keynesians there probably worse than the capitalist pig dogs that infest this forum
So what you're saying is you actually know nothing about economics at all. "Socialism" means nothing in itself with regards to economics.
How so? Socialism has everything to do with economics, as it is an economic system. Centrally planned, workers councils, redistribution of wealth, nationalized industries, bear cavalry ect.... Just because it is not totally centered around a piece of paper called money, does not mean it is not economics. Shit trading beer for rice is economics.
um, it is focused around money, just like every other economic system... money is a universal exchange for goods... socialism is as much dependent upon goods as ever other economic system. the means of production and capital are still standing, only slightly more destroyed under socialism, and instead of being controlled by productive people they are controlled by squanderers and looters
No, in the utopian socialist society there is no money exchanged, only subsistence. I'll let this guy explain it: "Slavery is that system of labour which exchanges subsistence for work, which secures a life-maintenance from the master to the slave, and gives a life-labour from the slave to the master. The slave is an apprentice for life, and owes his labour to his master; the master owes support, during life, to the slave. ... Slavery makes all work, and it ensures homes, food and clothing for all. It permits no ideless, and it provides for sickness, infancy and old age. ... This is the whole system substantially." -Senator William J. Grayson Hireling and the Slave 1856
But under socialism people are there own masters. They democratically control the means of production, whereas a slave does not. I see a capitalist society being more akin to slavery if you are poor. You have very little opportunities and little control over your life unless you obtain wealth.
You mean 51% of the people are their own masters. Slaves were an oppressed minority in a democratically controlled society.
only under a free market are people their own masters under socialism people, and their means of production, are the property of everyone but themselves