Rap and Crap rhyme for a reason...

Discussion in 'Music genres, Bands and Artists' started by Bonzo127, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. I'm 100% sober, out of weed, and angry...

    here we go...

    Rap is blatantly stupid and i find it offensive that it even exists. (with a few exceptions here and there.)

    America has destroyed music almost completely, they have turned what used to be an art form into "sick beats" and offensive lyrics. And it's not just music, Movies are crap now too, I grew up watching Blade Runner and The Godfather, now hey have movies like 2012. And even books are starting to turn into some fad with the whole Twilight series.

    lil wayne is crap, btw

    I don't even know J-DILLA... but this takes the words right out of my mouth

    You can listen to whatever music you want, but it doesn't make it good music, A guy i know said Dark Side of the Moon is only popular because it's for high people and that lil wayne was real music...

    Dark Side of the Moon is probably the greatest albums ever made next to some of the beatles albums because it has GOOD music

    "Hello?
    Is there anybody in there?
    Just nod if you can hear me.
    Is there anyone home?
    Come on, Come on, Come on, now,
    I hear you're feeling down.
    Well, I can ease your pain
    Get you on your feet again.
    Relax.
    I'll need some information first.
    Just the basic facts.
    Can you show me where it hurts?

    There is no pain you are receding
    A distant ship's smoke on the horizon.
    You are only coming through in waves.
    Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
    When I was a child I had a FEVER My hands felt just like two balloons.
    Now I've got that feeling once again
    I can't explain, you would not understand
    This is not how I am.

    I have become comfortably numb.
    (solo)
    I have become comfortably numb.

    O.K.
    Just a little pin prick.
    There'll be no more aaaaaaaaah!
    But you may feel a little sick.
    Can you stand up?
    I do believe it's working, good.
    That'll keep you going through the show
    Come on it's time to go.

    There is no pain you are receding
    A distant ship's smoke on the horizon.
    You are only coming through in waves.
    Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
    When I was a child
    I caught a fleeting glimpse
    Out of the corner of my eye.
    I turned to look but it was gone
    I cannot put my finger on it now
    The child is grown,
    The dream is gone.
    but I have become comfortably numb."

    If any rap artist today has better lyrics than that just tell me, if not... just accept the fact you listen to shit music

    (this is not about old school rap, it's abut NEW rap)

    My name is Zack... and i'm proud to be an elitist:D
     
  2. Who the fuck are you to tell me what's good and what's not. I hate that shit
     
  3. it's not just me, it's not even other people, it's just obvious facts. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd will never be forgotten, most rap artist now wil be forgotten in ten years
     
  4. #4 murdermore410, Mar 28, 2010
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    I don't understand if you don't like something why make a thread about it. I don't like metal but I don't make threads to bash and hate on it. I don't listen to it and I'm ignorant about it so I'm not going to hate on it. WTF is wrong with people

    Edit- I couldn't care less if anybody remebered it or not I'm not listening to it for anybody else.
     
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  5. I think summed my feelings up about rap pretty well in the whys everyone hatin on rap thread.we need a revolution



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    Re: Why does everyone have to hate on rap?
    Cause its a bunch of untalented bastards making millions and then rubbing the money their making in everyones face by buying like 20 fifty thousand uneccesary cars, and million dolla chains and makin it rain on da hoes n shit. i surelywouldnt buy their album. dont consider it music i find its the easy way out for black people to make money since the music industry is so damn fucked now a days with all this shitty mainstream shit dumbass kids will listen to whatevers trendy and everyone else is listening too. i dont really bother it all sounds thew same to me maintstream or not. whatever happend to my rock n roll?
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  6. Cause i take it you dont play any kind of or near any instrument so i doubt you know what real music is you dont have an ear for music if you listen rap thats a bunch of shit you dont have to be talented to write meaningless lyrics and put it to a "beat" what about the talent. lyrics that mean something?people who actually can play instruments who actually deserve the money of people that buy there albums. go listen some lil wayne
     
  7. #7 murdermore410, Mar 28, 2010
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    I can't stand people like who think they know every thing about music. You say I don't know what real music is......well it's all comes down to ones perspective so to say something is real music or not IMO is stupid ass shit it's all real. You may not like it but it's music and there's people who do like. I think what I said before fits well here.
    trying to tell me what's good and what's not smfh. Go jack off to Bob Dylan
     

  8. "The color of my skin, content of my character,
    Dream of a King's been a nightmare for anyone
    White with a badge or anyone
    Slightly affected by the tide to this race that I'm running in,
    Pardon me, y'all, the racists I run against,
    The race war, when its us against all of them,
    They subconsciously low talk us,
    And probably all think as Kramer did still but won't talk it,
    And first off, I ain't trying to be conscious,
    Speaking heart with a conscious, talking to you,
    This dark content for those of dark complexion,
    Who's x-ed off, Rip, who gon' listen to us?
    Who gon' speak for us? Who gon' plead for us?
    Who gon' be the Head N.I.C. for us?
    Who gon' defend us from crooked police on us?
    I'm just an insecure N.I.G. er...

    Please listen to me, please listen to me,
    Please listen to me, N.I.G. er...
    Please listen to me, who gon' listen to me?
    Who gon' listen to me, N.I.G. er...
    Listen to me, who gon' listen to me?
    Who gon' listen to me, N.I.G. er...
    Who gon' listen to me, who gon' listen to me?
    Who gon' listen to me, N.I.G.

    Hey,
    And P say that I should stop saying *****,
    But if I did, what would be the difference?
    I'd still be a *****, he'd still be a ***** in his feelings,
    I'd still be a ***** with no deal tryna get one,
    There'd still be *****s out killing,
    And still be white people still out to get us,
    And still be *****s saying whites tryna get us,
    And still be lazy and paranoid *****s,
    I'm paramount, *****, I am, and you can't be mad,
    Cuz I choose the word *****, lemme air it out, *****,
    ***** ain't bad, see, *****s just had,
    A clever idea to take something They said,
    Into something we have, something we flipped
    Into something with swag, *****, don't be mad,
    Bitches ain't shit, but women ain't bitches,
    See, women are the queens, and bitches just bitches,
    And bitches say bitch like bitch is not offensive,
    When *****s say bitch, all of the sudden, they offended,
    And *****s say ***** to a *****,
    A ***** write ***** in a lyric, expect the white boy to omit it,
    The white boy spit it like he spit it,
    Recite it to his friends who, by the way, ain't *****s,
    And say *****, *****, *****, my favorite rapper did it,
    And non-***** friends got it with him,
    Incorporate this lyric to their everyday living,
    Until a black friend kinda hear it, just a tidbit,
    He thinks Aw, forget it, its so insignificant and little,
    The white boy sees this as a clearance, now its
    *****, *****, *****, every single day,
    And that little ***** *****, thinks its okay,
    And he's the only ***** in this particular grade,
    And it begins to phase him more each day,
    The things they say went a little too far,
    He couldn't tell the difference between an a or er,
    So they just keep going, saying ***** in his face,
    There's nothing he can do, he let it get away,
    It came to the point he couldn't look 'em in the face,
    The mirror made him hurl, his reflection disgraceful,
    Yeah, and make sure everything you say,
    Can't be held against you in any kind of way,
    And any connotation is viewed many ways,
    Cuz under every *****, there's a little bit of Kramer,
    Self-hatred...I hate you...and myself...*****s"
    - Wale
     
  9. Damn just shut up now Bonzo. I agree, any mainstream music nowadays is complete shit. But that doesn't mean there's not plenty of talented rappers and producers still around. And a lot of groups still DO play all live instruments. So don't disrespect any one music style just because you've heard a few examples and gave up. Oh, and i like hipppity hop and Floyd, so there ya go partner
     
  10. I play guitar at a fairly good level, and I love rap music and I love Pink Floyd and the beatles.

    Why make a choice?

    Please don't call lil wayne rap, because he may be techincally classed as it but everyone who likes real rap knows he's not a real rapper.

    Oh and as for lyrics, listen to one love by nas.

    I think it's pathetic that you made a thread to hate on something. I don't really like punk music that much, but I don't start a thread claiming to be an elitist and say that it's a fact that punk music is shit.

    I really hope you're not serious when you say that it's a FACT that rap is shit.
     
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  11. #11 JointOps1, Mar 28, 2010
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    You act as if youve just posted some amazing lyrics just because theres a lot of words, i mean the overall message of that song is fucking stupid you kind of just proved my point.anyone can really write those lyrics theres nothing that really stands out that shows creativty......

    Darkness at the break of noon
    Shadows even the silver spoon
    The handmade blade, the child’s balloon
    Eclipses both the sun and moon
    To understand you know too soon
    There is no sense in trying.
    Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
    Suicide remarks are torn
    From the fool’s gold mouthpiece the hollow horn
    Plays wasted words, proves to warn
    That he not busy being born is busy dying.
    Temptation’s page flies out the door
    You follow, find yourself at war
    Watch waterfalls of pity roar
    You feel to moan but unlike before
    You discover that you’d just be one more
    Person crying.
    So don’t fear if you hear
    A foreign sound to your ear
    It’s alright, Ma, I’m only sighing.
    As some warn victory, some downfall
    Private reasons great or small
    Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
    To make all that should be killed to crawl
    While others say don’t hate nothing at all
    Except hatred.
    Disillusioned words like bullets bark
    As human gods aim for their mark
    Make everything from toy guns that spark
    To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
    It’s easy to see without looking too far
    That not much is really sacred.
    While preachers preach of evil fates
    Teachers teach that knowledge waits
    Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
    Goodness hides behind its gates
    But even the president of the United States
    Sometimes must have to stand naked.
    An’ though the rules of the road have been lodged
    It’s only people’s games that you got to dodge
    And it’s alright, Ma, I can make it.
    Advertising signs they con
    You into thinking you’re the one
    That can do what’s never been done
    That can win what’s never been won
    Meantime life outside goes on
    All around you.
    You lose yourself, you reappear
    You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
    Alone you stand with nobody near
    When a trembling distant voice, unclear
    Startles your sleeping ears to hear
    That somebody thinks they really found you.
    A question in your nerves is lit
    Yet you know there is no answer fit
    To satisfy, insure you not to quit
    To keep it in your mind and not forget
    That it is not he or she or them or it
    That you belong to.
    Although the masters make the rules
    For the wise men and the fools
    I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.
    For them that must obey authority
    That they do not respect in any degree
    Who despise their jobs, their destinies
    Speak jealously of them that are free
    Cultivate their flowers to be
    Nothing more than something they invest in.
    While some on principles baptized
    To strict party platform ties
    Social clubs in drag disguise
    Outsiders they can freely criticize
    Tell nothing except who to idolize
    And then say God bless him.
    While one who sings with his tongue on fire
    Gargles in the rat race choir
    Bent out of shape from society’s pliers
    Cares not to come up any higher
    But rather get you down in the hole
    That he’s in.
    But I mean no harm nor put fault
    On anyone that lives in a vault
    But it’s alright, Ma, if I can’t please him.
    Old lady judges watch people in pairs
    Limited in sex, they dare
    To push fake morals, insult and stare
    While money doesn’t talk, it swears
    Obscenity, who really cares
    Propaganda, all is phony.
    While them that defend what they cannot see
    With a killer’s pride, security
    It blows the minds most bitterly
    For them that think death’s honesty
    Won’t fall upon them naturally
    Life sometimes must get lonely.
    My eyes collide head-on with stuffed
    Graveyards, false gods, I scuff
    At pettiness which plays so rough
    Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
    Kick my legs to crash it off
    Say okay, I have had enough
    What else can you show me?
    And if my thought-dreams could be seen
    They’d probably put my head in a guillotine
    But it’s alright, Ma, it’s life, and life only
     

  12. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kecpVYjNJVk]YouTube - Nas - Sly Fox (with Full Lyrics)[/ame]

    EDIT: That song isn't particular good lyrics, but the flow and rhyme is extremely good.
     
  13. #13 JointOps1, Mar 28, 2010
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    they are some of the best lyrics you probably cease to see the meaning of it even,its make you think look at from different perspectives there so many creative quotes from that song dude you really do have some balls to say that that isnt particulary good lyrics you just have to get it you have know how to read lyrics and get the song anyone who says dylans lyrics arent good is fucking nuts and shouldnt even have the right to have say in this conversation.i know what good lyrics are man i grew up my dad being a musician ive been into music since i was 8 years old writing my own songs since age 13now 24 i think i know a little more than you about actual musical talent .
     

  14. I didn't expect to see this level of ignorance in GC:rolleyes:

    But I do think Dylans lyrics are good, and Pink Floyd is my all time favourite band. I don't know why I'm telling you this as I really couldn't care less what you think of me.

    My advice to you is to use tolerance, and don't bitch at everyone who doesn't like the same music as you. You're just as bad as the people that criticize weed smokers for smoking weed.
     
  15. #15 murdermore410, Mar 28, 2010
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    Lyrics to Pray To The Lord :
    {Chorus}
    "Before I sleep
    I pray to the lord my soul to keep
    and if I shall die before I awake
    I pray to the lord, my soul to take
    For goodness sake
    (repeat)

    I wrote my will just the other week
    It was funny it was only one sheet
    And I know that's only one me
    But I hope I am everything my son be
    I'm trying to live right stay on the drum beat
    But I'm in the fast lane, in the front seat
    I wonder will I lose control of the Mazerati
    And hit some tree just being young me
    Is there a heaven for G's and soldiers?
    I can't go to hell 'cause I'll take over
    I feel it approaching but I aint scared.
    I made that bed and I should rest in peace.

    {Chorus}

    Yea and every time I see the sunshine
    I drop down and give thanks at least one time
    Feeling like I'm living on the frontline
    I'm feeling like every second is crunch time
    I've had breakfast will I make it to lunchtime?
    And I aint joking so don't be looking for punchlines
    Will I be the next victim of a gun crime?
    I don't know the answer that's why I brung mine
    Riding by myself late at night
    Pistol on my lap at every single red light
    I made my bed right so when I do
    I should sleep tight and peace I rip

    {Chorus}

    Bury me a gangsta cause that's what I live
    Don't cry for me I gave the best I could give
    I can only do me so that's what I did
    And I cherish every birth of my kid
    And I don't wanna go before she grow that aint cool
    But in this game of life I don't make the rules
    Shiiit So that's why I get twisted So I can't feel it when it hits me
    And my moms don't need that on her
    But I see dead around the corner
    And if he so happens to make his way around the block
    You gotta answer the door when he knock
    Believe that"- lil Wayne


    [Kid Cudi]
    "I got 99 problems and they all b-tches,
    wish i was Jigga man,
    care free livin,
    but im not shawn,
    or Martin Louis,
    I’m that Cleveland n-gga,
    rollin with them Brooklyn boy,
    you know how it be when you start living large,
    i control my own life,
    Charles was never in charge,
    no sitcom could teach Scott,
    about the dram
    or even explain the troubles that haunted my mom
    on Christmas time
    my moms Christmas grind
    got most of what i wanted how’d you do it mom?
    huh, she copped the toys i would play with in my room by myself
    why he by himself
    he got 2 older brothers 1 hood 1 good
    an independent older sister kept me fly when she could
    but they all didn’t see
    the little bit of sadness in me
    Scotty

    [Chorus]
    I've got some issues that nobody can see
    and all of these emotions are pourin' outta me
    I bring them to the light for you
    it's only right
    this is the soundtrack to my life
    the soundtrack to my life ohhhh

    [Verse 2]
    I super paranoid like a sixth sense,
    since my father died I ain’t been right since,
    and I tried to piece the puzzle of the universe,
    split an eighth of shrooms just so I can see the universe,
    I try to think about myself as a sacrifice,
    just to show the kids they ain’t the only ones up tonite,
    the moon will illuminate my room and soon i’m consumed by my doom,
    Once upon a time nobody gave a f-ck,
    it’s all said and done and my cocks been sucked,
    so now im in the cut, alcohol in the womb,
    my hearts an open swore and hope it heals soon,
    I live in a cocoon opposite of Cancun,
    where it is never sunny the dark side of the moon,
    so its moving right, i try to shed some light on the man,
    not many people of this planet understand.

    [Chorus]
    I've got some issues that nobody can see
    and all of these emotions are pourin' outta me
    I bring them to the light for you
    it's only right
    this is the soundtrack to my life
    the soundtrack to my life ohhhh

    [Verse 3]
    I was close to go an try some coke
    and a happy ending would be slitting my throat,
    ignorance the coke man, ignorance is bliss,
    ignorance is love and I need that sh-t,
    if i never did shows then i’ll prol be a myth
    and if i cared about the blogs I’d probably be a jackass,
    don’t give a sh-t what people talk about fam,
    haters shake my hand but i keep the sanitizer on deck,
    hope i really get to see thirty,
    wanna settle down stop being so flirty,
    most of the clean faces be the most dirty,
    i just need a thorough bread cook when i’m hungry,
    ass all chunky, brain is insanity,
    only things that calm me down p-ssy and some cali tree’s,
    and I get both, never truly satisfied,
    I AM HAPPY, thats just the saddest lie!

    [Chorus]
    I've got some issues that nobody can see
    and all of these emotions are pourin' outta me
    I bring them to the light for you
    it's only right
    this is the soundtrack to my life
    the soundtrack to my life ohh"
     
  16. totally cause talking about music and weed is the same thing huh?? your dumb as a box of rocks dude, i wont even bother reading your reply so dont bother.
     
  17. #17 beyond305, Mar 28, 2010
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    buncha racist bastards, your mad cause your white and cant adjust to the music cause your too buisy listening to the shit your forefathers told you was right to listen to.

    blah blah blah, American grew up on rock and roll. Who gives a fuck? Its a new generation and people dont want to sit around listening to the same old shit over and over again. It was time for a change so rap was created. Where would music be without the diversity in genres ? NO WHERE you stupid fuck. You state this shit like as if its a fact that rap is garbage, when its merely your personal opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one and they all stink!

    You notice how its always some one hating on rap, but you never see someone talking shit about rock, punk, death rock, country, etc.

    Ozzy ozborne is a sick bastard but you hear no one talkin shit about him

    There are several types of rappers, LiL Wayne is classified as a commercial rapper, he puts out the music he knows his fans want to hear and makes money. His last album Carter III sold 1 million in the first week, jus goes to show you how many fans hes got.

    Just cause you dont like what rappers speak about in they're lyrics doesnt mean you have to talk shit about them.

    P.S. I just noticed all this hatred is coming from two users with less than 25 post that subscribed this year, :D hahahahha
     
  18. fuck everything said in this thread.

    PEOPLE LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND TO THEM ITS MUSIC WHO GIVES A FUCK IF YOU DONT LIKE IT OR NOT ITS NOT UP TO YOU AND NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR OPINION.
     
  19. #19 murdermore410, Mar 28, 2010
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    Those lyrics are fucking stupid are you a idiot? How can you say nothing stands out? Those are amazing lyrics with true meaning and pain behind them. Just because you don't understand them completely doesn't make them stupid:rolleyes:

    Edit- the overall message fucking stupid how can you say that WOW
     
  20. Saying "Weed is a bad thing to do, that's fact" is in my opinion the same thing as saying "Rap is a bad thing to listen to, that's fact."

    Both rely on empirical observations, and in no way resemble facts whatsoever.

    Seeing as how you can't use correct grammar, make basic spelling mistakes and can't seem to back up your argument with anything more than the classic "my music is better than yours, here are some lyrics from my favourite musician, he is better than your favourite musician, that's a fact".
     

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