Prism: The Secret Usa Governement Internet Spying Program

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  1. #1 DiamondSupply, Jun 10, 2013
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    Last night, the Washington Post and Guardian dropped concurrent bombshell reports. Their subject was PRISM, a covert collaboration between the NSA, FBI, and nearly every tech company you rely on daily. PRISM has allowed the government unprecedented access to your personal information for at least the last six years. But what is it, exactly?
    PRISM is a secret government program...
    As much as PRISM might sound like a comic book antagonist of S.H.I.E.L.D., it's the codename for a very real US government program. According to leaked documents, it went into effect in 2007, and has only gained momentum since. Its stated purpose is to monitor potentially valuable foreign communications that might pass through US servers, but it appears that in practice its scope was far greater.
    PRISM information, according to the Post, accounts for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports. That's staggering.
    ...that gives the NSA unprecedented access to the servers of major tech companies...
    Microsoft. Yahoo. Google. Facebook. PalTalk. AOL. Skype. YouTube. Apple. If you've interacted with any of those companies in the last six years, that information is vulnerable under PRISM. But how?
    The initial reports from last night suggested that the process works as follows: The companies mentioned above (and who knows how many others) receive a directive from the attorney general and the director of national intelligence. They hand over access to their servers-and the tremendous wealth of data and communiques that passes through them every day-to the FBI's Data Intercept Technology Unit, which in turn relays it to the NSA.
    And that's when things get interesting.
    ...which may or may not be "direct"... RELATED
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    </div></div>Much has been made over the phrase "direct access;" most of the implicated tech companies vehemently deny providing it, and the government denies asking for it. TheNew York Times, though, reports that while access may not technically be "direct," the secure portals companies like Google and Facebook were going to build for the NSA amounted to as much. Moreover, a PRISM powerpoint slide released by the Guardian after its initial report clearly states that "direct access" is a part of the program.
    However you want to parse it, there seems to be very little doubt that all of this is happening, and to an unfathomable degree. that the agency can spy on unwitting US citizens...
    It seems impossible that the NSA, an agency which by law is only allowed to monitor foreign communications, has so much access to domestic information. And yet!
    There are, as you might expect, filters in place to help handle the fire hose of data that comes through daily, the trillions of bits and bytes that make up our online identities and lives. Something to ensure that only the bad guys are being tracked and not honest, everyday citizens. Actually, there's one filter, and it's ridiculous: an NSA analyst has to have "51 percent" confidence that a subject is "foreign." After that, it's carte blanche.
    That's it. That's the only filter. And it's an ineffective one, at that; the PowerPoint slides published by the post acknowledge that domestic citizens get caught in the web, but that it's "nothing to worry about."
    ...with terrifying granularity...
    It's something to worry about.
    What's most troubling about PRISM isn't that it collects data. It's the type of data it collects. According to the Washington Post report, that includes:
    Did you get all that? Similar depth of access applies to Facebook, Microsoft, and the rest. Just to be clear: this covers practically anything you've ever done online, up to and including Google searches as you type them.
    …audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs… [Skype] can be monitored for audio when one end of the call is a conventional telephone, and for any combination of “audio, video, chat, and file transfers” when Skype users connect by computer alone. Google's offerings include Gmail, voice and video chat, Google Drive files, photo libraries, and live surveillance of search terms.
    ...which is both different from and more aggressive than the Verizon scandal...
    The news of PRISM broke soon after a separate report, about the NSA's having access to Verizon customer-and, according to an NBC report, everyone else's-phone logs. Surprisingly enough, this is a totally different program! And PRISM makes the Verizon thing look like an ACLU company picnic by comparison.
    When the NSA monitors phone records, it reportedly only collects the metadata therein. That includes to and from whom the calls were made, where the calls came from, and other generalized info. Importantly, as far as we know, the actual content of the calls was off-limits.
    By contrast, PRISM apparently allows full access not just to the fact that an email or chat was sent, but also the contents of those emails and chats. According to the Washington Post's source, they can "literally watch you as you type." They could be doing it right now.
    ...and has the full (but contested) cooperation of tech giants...
    PRISM's first corporate partner was allegedly Microsoft, which according to the Post and Guardian signed on back in 2007. Other companies slowly joined, with Apple being the most recent enlistee. Twitter, it seems, has not complied.
    But why would all of these companies agree to this? Mostly because they have no choice. Failure to hand over server data leaves them subject to a government lawsuit, which can be expensive and incredibly harmful in less quantifiable ways. Besides, they receive compensation for their services; they're not doing this out of charity. There is incentive to play ball.
    Here's where things get a little complicated, though. Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, and Google have all given full-throated denials of any involvement whatsoever. Most of them aren't just PR syntactical trickery, either; they are unequivocal.
    ...and which is, shockingly enough, totally legal.
    What's most horrifying about PRISM might be that there's nothing technically illegal about it. The government has had this authority for years, and there's no sign that it's going to be revoked any time soon.
    A little bit of history might be helpful for context. Back in 2007, mounting public pressure forced the Bush administration to abandon the warrantless surveillance program it had initiated in 2001. Well, abandon might be too strong a word. What the administration actually did was to find it a new home.
    The Protect America Act of 2007 made it possible for targets to be electronically surveilled without a warrant if they were "reasonably believed" to be foreign. That's where that 51% comes in. It was followed by the 2008 FISA Amendments Act, which immunized companies from legal harm for handing information over to the government. And that's the one-two punch that gives PRISM full legal standing.
    All of which is to say that PRISM is an awful violation of rights, but it's one that's not going to disappear any time soon. The government, including President Obama, is so far completely unapologetic. And why wouldn't they be? It's easy enough to follow the letter of the law when you're the one writing it.
    What this shit means in general,is that they can spy on you LEGALLY on these websites ^^ and have access to all the privacy you think you have with the privacy settings and shit. So yeah, just pointing this out for all you stoners who posts on some pages like: 420,etc. showing your stuff,bad idea.

  2. isnt that against the constitution?
  3. It most certainly is, I created a thread like this in general earlier today but it got moved to Pandora's Box. The Moderators clearly misunderstand that this thread shouldn't be moved, but rather should be stickied in EVERY SECTION of Grasscity.
    This is the fucking news of the decade, perhaps even the century.
  4. fucking right it is!!!! this shit is insane!!! hope the americans do SOMETHING!!! they are finally being totally and unapologetically fucked in the ass in public by their govt and it is laughing at them for taking it. shame on you america if you take this one sitting down!!!
  5. People in general just don't seem to give a shit man... real sad.
  6. The worst part is that you can be considered a terrorist for looking up information. Last time I checked, you could only be persecuted for commiting a crime, not for looking up info that could potential lead to a crime. For instance looking up info about guns and homemade explosives could land you in trouble. It's ONLY INFORMATION. Fuckin crock of shit. If they wanna stop terrorism, they should stop doing things that piss people off like this PRISM thing.
  7. Pretty sure supporting Ron Paul or being a member of the Tea Party also made one affiliated with 'terrorist' groups.
  8. I know right, I mean,Americans can't do shit since it's "legal" they can't just go sue Obama or anyone.
    What i'm most worried of, is peopel like us(the stoners) who post DAILY pictures on pages on facebook like 420 and shit,that's like asking a cop to bust you and they "can" even get infos of your private life with this PRISM shit
  9. Lol if you think the government gives two fucks about your weed pictures.
  10. Funny though that none of the websites mentioned have confirmed the story, most of their responses have been along the lines of "What the fuck is this PRISM shit, eh?  Never heard of it."
    Nothing to see here, folks...Move along. :cool:
  11. I'm moving in with the cartels in Mexico where it's safer lol.
  12. Relax. The government does it for our protection, you shouldn't be worried unless you have something to hide
    If only the government weren't notorious for locking away the wrong man and claiming victory in the streets, sure. :cool:
  14. see the thing is the gov doesnt give a fuck. If a large majority of citizen say this is wrong, they would laugh, and point barrels down range. They have no sense of right or wrong, with the huge ego of the gov, they think they have the right to do this.
    People cant change this because they wont listen. Just like prohibition, or anything else.
  15. #15 Rebel Eye, Jun 11, 2013
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    If you're not a Tea Party member or belong to some other right wing group that plays a heavy hitter in Washington, you should be ok.. For a couple more years at least...
  16. And some people laugh at me for smoking a joint with my tin foil hat on.....!

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