Ok, what the hell is this Grasscity?

Dude, it was a comparison. I never said they had the patriot act in the Netherlands. Took that way out of context. The patriot act is the biggest ass fucking the American public has taken by the American government. I'm not gonna sit here and explain it to you, google it. But basically they took the word terrorist and warped it into meaning anybody anywhere at any time.

 

I came here for answers, but I'm just gonna drop it because I'm getting frustrated and let this one slide back under the rug where you guys want it to be. But yea, I appreciate you guys, so nicely and not rude at all *sarcasm*, answering my questions about device information that is taken. I understand it's "anonymous" but there is nothing anonymous about an imei or serial #. If you would just tell me what device information is gathered and it proves to be Unidentifiable I will gladly proclaim that the grasscity forum app is safe for people in illegal areas to use without worry of their cell phone information being snagged AND I will formally apologize to anyone, hell, just for a good laugh I will even send you a beautiful calligraphed apology letter written with a quill and have 2 dozen roses delivered to GC headquarters. HALike I said "personal indentifiers" and "device identifiers" are not the same by definition in the English language or the law no matter what country you are from. When it says personal identifiers are anonymous and doesn't say shit about device information or even what, in that broad category, are they taking, then I asked here, and even you guys don't wanna tell me? That's a red flag in my mind. This is a classic example of double talk. The saying "read the fine print" doesn't just mean read the small words. It means look for loopholes like this. And the statement "non-personally identifiable" is clearly a loophole, it makes it even more clear when it vaguely says "device information" and doesn't elaborate. What I'm getting at is they are telling the "truth", they won't take any of your personal info of course, but all that device info that's ripe for the taking WILL be taken, and that device information COULD be used to identify us personally, but that's not their fault. Quantcast would be liable for damages if they sold your personal information, but in the real world, the cell phone you hold in your hands doesn't have any rights. They "clearly" said they were taking your device information. WHAT they are taking is the question I want answeredGrasscity is in the Netherlands, but Quantcast is in San Francisco. If 99.9% of websites use this data collection advertisement crap, how could that possibly go unnoticed by the prying eyes over in Maryland at the NSA? Nobody else finds it strange that this seemingly intricate service Quantcast offers is free? How do they make their money?? **hint** most likely selling our information. Hmmmm... How many blondes does it take to figure out who the top bidder is? Big government of course. They have so much "money" when they run out, they just print more. And you guys wanna beat around the bush with me, I just want to know what device information is collected. I deleted the GC app as SOON as I found this .plist you had hidden, pretty well I might add.. So I am not really concerned for my safety anymore, I really posted this to make people aware. Logically, we aren't happy about it, and logically, you defend this forum with everything you have because, after all, you are the worlds largest online headshop, above a forum, a business. Profits are ultimately all that matters, the only reason you guys do this forum is for advertisement apparently. I understand that "the EU is all about privacy", and I really hate to say this but the NSA is out of control and nobody seems to be doing anything about it. They've been caught spying on German gov, GB, and a few others. So even though the EU may be "concerned about security", that doesn't mean their security is any good, actually it's quite the contrary. Apparently It sucks if the NSA somehow got a bug in the German prime ministers office! The NSA spies on us, their own people!They dump millions of dollars into cracking even the most up to date methods of encryption, hiring security research companies to find bugs in software like internet explorer, etc and use it as a backdoor. I know they are caching thousands of terabytes worth of data A DAY. They don't seem to be stopping anytime soon. The FBI then uses this information to conduct it's investigations. I know this doesn't relate to you over at Grasscity at all, but I just felt like I should share. Just because you "don't feel like the NSA would be worried about a weed forum" doesn't mean that they can't or won't. Wake up people. This is the digital age. They are miles ahead of any technology that we will have even for the next 10 years. That's what "infinite" money will do for you. Apparently I'm not the only one that was clueless about this Quantcast judging by the responses. Maybe you guys should do a better job of letting us know that our information is being taken truly "anonymous" or not. Ultimately, I know it is my choice to post here, but it IS a lot safer than walking around trying to find somebody with the answers to your growing questions, but I don't like politician double talk especially when I was under the impression that I was completely 100% anonymous on here, then I dig around in your app and find this, that they are taking not just app usage data or anything simple like that, I wouldn't even waste my time TYPING ALL THIS CRAP over something like that but red words here are city and the very vague "device information". Since you are real people after all you should have no problem putting yourself in my shoes. What would you have done? Silently decided that you just weren't gonna use the anymore or inform the others that were in the dark like you? Edward Snowden thought it was a good idea to inform the people in the dark. Now we know it's happening and still nothing can be done about it. That's when you know it's a messed up situation. And if he wouldn't have ran to Russia, he would have been dead before anybody even knew his name. Honestly, show of hands, who here really read the freakin privacy policy? Nobody in their right mind would join a place like this with the knowledge that they collect device information. Like I said this could be 20 different things that could ultimately lead someone smart enough back to us, no matter how "anonymous" or "encrypted". Rephrase: "device information" could be 20+ different numbers and somebody smart enough could easily track you down using just about any of them. Especially true with udid, ecid, imei, serial, even wireless data ip addresses. And since you want to act like you're all safe because you don't live in America, do yourself a favor and google U.N. Agenda 21. Rant over. Consider the topic closed. But there's 2 reasons why you won't tell me what "device information" is taken, #1: you really don't have a freakin clue or #2 you don't want us to know about it. Good day fellas.

 

[quote name="ParanoiaKills" post="19409468" timestamp="1390750576"]Sorry but if your doing something illegal, and your posting about it on the Internet.....one would assume that's a terrible decision That is the silliest thing I have ever read (almost...) it's like posting your grow status on Facebook....when you're illegally cultivating lolA little common sense goes a long way when your on the Internet. THERE IS NO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET!Let me say it again.....THERE IS NO PRIVACY ON ANY WEBSITE ON THE INTERNET!It reminds if of the funny South Park episode.....where you click on the "I've read the terms and agreements and I click here to agree....." Dude didn't you read the terms and conditions here? Lol obviously not[/quote]Haha look at you trying to make a joke. First off, apparently, according to these 2, this place is as anonymous as it gets. 2nd, dude, you and the millions of people who think like you are exactly the reason we are in the situation we are in right now. There SHOULD be privacy on the internet, but there's always a group of people like you who just bend over and take it without a problem. Somebody says there's no privacy on the internet and you don't give a damn, today it's "oh well, there's no privacy online", tomorrow it's "oh well, there's no privacy in my living room" think I'm joking? Keep being naive and see where that gets you. Nice South Park reference, but I didn't realize that such a trustworthy place as GC would keep such things hidden from us.