"... Moderate Democrats also lost presidential elections in 1980, 2000, 2004, and 2016. Since McGovern, moderate Democrats have a losing record in presidential elections: six losses to the five wins by Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama (who ran a more progressive primary campaign than Hillary Clinton in 2008). But this history is lost in discussions of electability. It is as if moderate nominees are undefeated. It is as if the last time a Democrat lost was when the party nominated McGovern in 1972. ... I not only fear a moderate Democrat losing to Trump in November; I fear moderate Democrats refusing to accept blame for the loss. ... In recent Democratic primaries, moderates have warned of Howard Dean in 2004, of Barack Obama in 2008, and now, of Warren and Sanders, as the new McGoverns who can’t win. How are these moderate Democrats running on their electability in 2020 when a moderate Democrat lost to Trump in 2016? How is the electable moderate reborn when it has died so many times in recent presidential elections? Simple: When moderate Democrats lose, they blame everything except the party’s decision to nominate a moderate for president of the United States. ... Why can’t they unite in a common willingness to admit when their candidates are unelectable? The progressive candidate was probably unelectable in 1972 against Nixon. The moderate candidates are probably unelectable in 2020 against Trump. If moderates can’t move past their doctrine and recognize when their candidates are unelectable, then how will Democrats ever beat Trump? If Democrats can’t learn to self-critique, then how will they ever be different than Trump? " When Will Moderates Learn Their Lesson?
They won't beat Trump. Biden is Trump's best bet at beating the stupid 3rd grader democrats. He's so stupid he can't even keep the bullshit he's shoveling straight. Donald could win this elections and not spend 100 bucks
On top of pushing alienated voters away from Dems forever. Clinton was not the candidate we wanted and as a result you had the 6 million Obama to Trump swing, what do they think will happen this time? Young people aren't excited about Biden, and when he's losing but then gets endorsed by establishment either by media bias or establishment directing opponents to endorse over the front runner, I'm guessing same thing happens. I'm guessing Bernie voters stay home if Biden gets the nominee. I hate the GOPs money grubbing lack of character, but I can't stand the prissy elitism of dems. They could have had a strong candidate but they decide to fracture and play favorites. They're doing it to themselves again. Leadership is crap.
Yeah they lost, but to be fair, Gore an Hillary won the popular vote. So it's not like they lost big. In the end, it's always a giant douche vs a turd sandwich.
As a Canadian I find its a unique system in the US how they pick party leaders. In most other countries the party picks their leader by themselves behind closed doors, not with major public debates, superdelegates, public votes, etc. In the US it's like a presidential election before the actual presidential election and the candidates smear each other which is kinda funny IMO. They're trying to win an election for themselves and their party while throwing other party members under the bus. Isn't politics great
Lol ya, I hear you. Imo the establishment is being exposed. They are trying to rally around a guy that can't put 2 sentences together because of their spoiled childish hatred for the more popular Bernie. Hillary won the popular vote but lost the electoral college and they cried bloody murder. When this happened it was deemed "bad" for Hillary, but when its proposed that Bernie wins the popular vote while not having enough delegates to clinch the nomination, it's all about "follow the rules." That's maybe an inflated comparison, but Bernie is projected as the best candidate in the battleground States, the ones that Hillary lost. So if the establishment wants to talk about winning, they need to start valueing states that they can actually win, not picking a candidate whose support stems from states they won't win, ie the south or where Biden gets his votes from. Hillary, get out of the way unless you want to tank another election for us. You're toxic to the party. Sanders is the clear choice and you guys want to make him suffer. While you quibble over spilt milk the people are being left behind.
Bill Clinton and Obama were moderate, and both won 2 terms easily. Hillary in 2016 was a shit candidate, any other Democrat including Biden or Bernie would have probably won.
Obama was more progressive than Hillary. Obamacare was pretty "non-moderate," and all the GOP attacked it as socialist, sound familiar? It's my opinion that when B. Clinton was elected there was a different voting demographic, a different society 25yrs ago. I too think that if Hillary wasn't the nominee in 2016 we would have won.
All of the MS media anti Bernie is proof he is representing the majority of working class people and the more they rant about him the more donations and support he receives... Their idea of "popular" is what their sponsors and owners want, some milk toast yes person like Biden who bends in a breeze like a willow, not a standing tall oak like say Bernie.
the clinton's are poison to the democratic party imo. society during clinton's dual term was in fact a different world - the world was a different world lol. the truth about bill, hillary, their 21 close fiends or business associates that mysteriously died along with their individual dark histories...etc. man, the list of bad stuff associated with the clintons, their business associates, their foundation, policy decisions is loooooooooooooong. either of their involvement or support of the democratic candidate is a sure loss for the dems. they are very bad people and their history speaks for itself. easily found with simple searches. imo both bill and hillary should he in prison for life.
I liked Bill. I probably need to dig more to know what you're talking about. Hillary doesn't impress me. She never earned my respect but I never had anything against her either, just didn't know much about her. I thought all the hate and negative propaganda surrounding her was just that, propaganda. But then I started to see the cracks in her mask come 2016, and now she just toxic imo.
Lol why not? " “Anderson, we’ve seen many candidates drop out and endorse Joe, moving his numbers up. But we never imagined Joe could drop out and endorse Joe, instantly giving himself twice the level of support he once had. This is a brilliant move,” said Axelrod. “A move like this just proves that Bernie Sanders’ socialist message isn’t working and that the American people have spoken.” At press time, aides were rotating Joe around so that he would be facing the podium for his next rally. " Confused Biden Announces He Is Dropping Out Of Race, Endorses Joe Biden *spoof story, not true
start with what is known as the Whitewater Controversy to establish an early baseline and take note of key figures. wiki is a good place to start. then starting with vince foster's "suicide" follow the blood trail. actually just start here for the index of controversies Category:Clinton administration controversies - Wikipedia and this is old, old stuff just about bill! hillary is in her own genre. if you go down the rabbit hole of "conspiracy theories" , or critical thinking as i like to refer to it, the layers go really deep. the clinton's are arkansas gangsters now worth hundreds of millions! do the research and you'll start associating anything with the clinton's fingerprints on it is dubious at best, nefarious most likely.
Market is taking a beating! So much for that joementum market surge.. Media bias??? If wall street struggles this year from corona, Bernie has even better odds at winning this thing and making some much needed changes for the good. 23 (R) Senate seats up in 2020 and only 12 (D) Senate seats up in 2020, so GOP has twice as much at risk, with market struggling Democrats could make a decent run in the Senate too.
I've worked as a financial advisor and financial news is kinda hilarious. I've seen them use the exact same reasoning for the market going up and down. We'd always joke that there's a dart board or spin-the-wheel at every media outlet and they just pick whatever comes up as their headline. Them claiming it's because of Biden is just ridiculous. Like Warren Buffet says, it's all noise.
aint it the truth man. the mouth pieces talk about "the market" as if it were some living, biological entity. i too lmao when i read things like "the market reacted to news today..." ! wtf! haha "who" is this thing lol. its all bs man. at least in atlantic city or vegas you can continue to run on the house until you start losing. they just change dealers. they dont shut the table down. "the market" corrected "itself" today. it's a thing lol.
it's really about the glam. the entertainment value, what sells, who draws the most viewers. elections are big big business in america.