Making Live Rosin using Dry Ice??

Hi all! So I got a question for you all...

I am going to be harvesting soon (Barney's Farm Amnesia Lemon) and I was going to do an dry ice bubble bag extraction which I then plan to turn into rosin. But then I started thinking: Could I make a LIVE ROSIN by doing the dry ice method right after the chop?

I know with professional set-ups, they flash freeze after the chop then do their butane/propane/co2 extraction process. It seems to me that I should be able to do something similar with dry ice. Here's my hypothetical scenario: Chop the plants, break them down to smaller buds, pop them in the bucket with the dry ice (probably a layer sandwiching all the buds), let it freeze up, give it a little agitation, then move it to the bubble bags for the real shake out. Collect all the ostensibly live trichomes, and then press that into rosin.

My thought was that the dry ice is going to be freezing all the water in the bud while it knocks the trich heads off. One of the big reasons pros freeze before extracting is because it locks the water in the buds, and the presence of water can mess with the solvent (butane, propane, etc.) and prevent a proper extraction. Since I'm not using a chemical solvent anyway, would it even matter? If I had any water present in my final hash, I could just let it sit for a day (assuming I even need to, since having the hash a little less than dry makes for a better press).

What do you all think? Is this possible/anyone try it before? Is this just wishful thinking?

 

Really neat set up you have there. Looks like it certainly does the trick

But my question to you would be was that bud freshly harvested (i.e. chopped off the plant less than 24 hours ago)?

I want to know if I can do a dry ice extraction with fresh, NON-dried buds.

 

By the way, what is this contraption you've made here?

EDIT:
This is your Sawzall agitator. Gotcha.

 

Nice. Very cool.

So, are you using fresh, non-dried and cured buds? That is what my question is about.

 

Yeah, I want to know about trying to make live rosin (pressing out hash created from buds harvested less than 36 hours ago), including if it's even possible. So I am happy to hear that you DID try using freshly harvested material before. I want to know more about that!! How did that go? Was it just a matter of not getting the same yields? I want to know everything you can tell me about that experiment.

I have also read about using super frozen quarters (the coin, in case anyone was scratching their heads) to help the agitation process. For now, I think I will just stick to buds and dry ice until I've got a couple of runs under my belt.

 

DUPE

 

I've made myself a press out of a table vice and disassembled hair straightener. Presses out pure fire. Started with hand strength and a straightener, to using a vice table with the straightener, to grabbing JB Weld and making my own proper press (I should really upload pictures...). One day I'll upgrade to the 12-ton model...

But what about using the freshly harvested stuff with dry ice? I have been trying to find out more about that.

Local dispensaries sell a LIVE RESIN which is very different from a ROSIN which is solvent-less. I know all about making rosin in general, but I want to know if it's possible to make LIVE rosin.

 

Thanks for sharing your results. As you say, I think the real thing here is going to be doing my own experiments. I just figured I can't be the first person to think about this, and wanted to draw on as much collective knowledge as possible. So, again, thank you!
One of the biggest complaints I hear overall about using dry ice is that the final product is messier than water/ice extracting. And while I won't really argue the fact, I am wondering just how much of a difference it's even going to make since I plan to press absolutely all of it, and through a filter on top of it. So, I feel like I don't need to have any concern about excess(ive) plant material in whatever hash I make. Make end goal is to get as much terpenes (THC and all the flavorful ones, with emphasis on the latter) off the plant as possible to then press into rosin. So overall THC content isn't even really a great concern of mine, aside from it's overall effect on yields (crappy bud's not gonna give you much no matter how you extract it).
I'll keep probing the community in various places, and see what more I can learn. But, as we've both said, it's going most likely come down to personal experimentation. And, when I do so, I'll definitely be reporting back to the community. Until we can get university-funded research on this plant, it's gonna be civilian-science for now.

 

Yeah man. I did it a couple of times with some bubble hash I made. The comparison between pressing buds and pressing hash was amazing. It was like pressing butter. A little resistance at first while it heats, and then pure golden goo. I don't have a proper scale, but the returns had to have been something like 95%. Even on my crappy kitchen scale, 6 grams in came out as 6 grams (one actually weighed out MORE after I pressed it, by like a whole gram... dafuq?). I had to press each filter a couple of times, but man oh man was it worth the effort.