Okay, so new to grow scene...had some early screw ups, but now the dust has settled, and I have some viable plants. Basic set up: indoor, soil (no nutes yet), 600 watt MH/HPS, roughly 4 feet of headroom to start...but will hopefully be able to move light further up at some point...giving me 4 feet of usable grow space. I am growing 1 utopia haze and 1 nevilles haze, both are 25 days old from seed. Early setbacks caused me to germinate a few extra seeds about 1.5 weeks in, so now I have 5 total plants: 2 which are 25 days old, and 3 which are 1.5 weeks old. The 1.5 week old plants are a mix of bagseed, dna rocklock and dna lemon skunk (all freebies). Now here is my issue: I want to clone and perpetuate my utopia and nevilles haze, these are the strains I purchased and wanted to grow. The plants are ready to flower this week, so I planned to snip a few clones a few days before flower. My problem is the haze varieties (especially the nevilles) can go 14 weeks in flower, and my clones will only need about 4-5 weeks to root and veg. I can veg them in a seperate set up with some cheapo cfl's (not much $$ right now), but eventually they will need to be dumped into the flower room under my HPS. I can only fit 6 10" pots in my grow space, and there isn't a millimeter to spare. So if I have a bunch of stuff in the flower box taking up space (5 plants until at least the end of july when the earlier strains are finished), how do I take care of my vegged clones? I can't keep them in a kitchen cabinet under cfl's for 8 weeks waiting for some of my earlier strains to finish up....and even if I could, the older sativa's will be casting some pretty big shadows and taking up some serious space. I read it is possible to clone during flower...but since this is my first grow, and I only have 1 of each plant, if I hermie the thing, or fail to get clones, it would be devastating. Timing wise it would be great if I could snip them off halfway through flower, but I think it might be easier to LST the crap out of some clones under the kitchen sink, than to lose my plants/yield entirely. Anyone have any experience with this? I am not looking to get 50 clones, but it would be nice if I had at least 4-5 solid plants for grow number 2...and would be a total bonus if the haze plants finished flowering within 8 weeks of each other, perpetual yield sorta thing. My other question is regarding the rock lock, skunk, and bag seeds. They are almost 1.5 weeks old, the biggest has its first set of 3 fan leaves. I can veg them under my aforementioned cfl's for a little while as I switch the big plants into flower. Buuut...how big of a yield would I expect if I were to flower them after they were only at their first set of 5 fan leaves? They would flower under a 600 watt HPS, constant temp/air circulation, potentially some sort of flower nutes 10-30-10...or somthing of that nature. I only ask because times are tough. the other day I purchased a dime bag of seeds for about 25$, and that is gonna have to be it for the forseeable future. No money, no reliable access. Even a half ounce yield would be better than nothing, but I don't want to put in so much time and effort for no return...should I just be patient and stop smoking? I don't like the sounds of this one bit... My best option so far (i think) is to cut my clones this week, let root, veg under the sink. Keep them in small pots, and successively move to larger pots as they grow, and put them into 10" pots right before they go into the flower box. Problem is the time scale...8 weeks of veg will be a bit much waiting for some space to open up...I'd like to avoid flowering under cfl's when I have a big bud producing 600watt hps. Guess I am just hoping someone can help me play musical chairs with my plants...I am hoping to set myself on a sustainable course, so that I can have a constant easy supply. ANY suggestions at all would be really helpful. Here are a couple pics of the bigger plants, the others still look pretty boring...i'll post pics of them after they bulk up a bit. hmmm...won't let me repost pics Ive already put up, so here is a link to my post regarding N deficiency in the utopia haze. all pics are of utopia. http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plants-problems/598220-possible-n-deficiency.html rest of the pics go here...group photo, and the rest are nevilles haze.