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Discussion in 'Politics' started by SmokinP, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. we will see if that number stands up after the election fraud investigation wraps up. And also, 1.1% is obviously close to 1%, but certainly not within 1%. maybe by bernie math.
     
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  2. It's called rounding down you don't have to be obtuse about it. It's within 1.1 percent which is pretty good happy? Also it's hilarious that you think there are almost two million illegal votes. Show me where all these illegal voters are. Do you think states don't run any internal audits on these things? I can claim with as much credibility as your claim that there were millions of illegal voters for trump but I have no evidence of that claim so I wouldn't claim it as fact or even think it's very likely given past analysis of voter fraud.
     
  3. I dont know how you look at that map covered in red and don't see a majority of america....
     
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  4. the feds are auditing right now and several states that went blue aren't turning over their rolls....hmmm...
    I didn't say it was two million. But I will say that the "conservative" estimate of illegals in the country is 10 million. Most of them live in states that have zero residency requirements for drivers license, and that license, they can vote with it if they want. So to say that it is impossible is just dumb, and to discount the possibility altogether is even more.
     
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  5. How many times do we have to go over this. Now you're just being purposely dense. A majority of land prefers trump because republicans live in greater numbers in rural areas. A majority of people prefer Clinton because democrats live in greater numbers in population centers. It's not rocket science. The presidential election showed 2 million more people preferred Clinton but they didn't happen to live in the right states and as a result trump is president. I personally think the number of people who vote for you is logically more important than the area of land that votes for you. I beleive in a crazy idea that for a countrywide election all of our votes should probably count equally.
     
  6. thats the problem, right there. "they didn't live in the right states" cmon dude. She didn't appeal to the people who matter the most, the ones who HAD been the bread and butter of the democrats, as a result, she fucking lost, and bigly i might add.
     
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  7. From my understanding most states do require proof of residency to vote and proof of citizenship such as SS number although that is definitely state dependent. On top of that there is harsh penalty for illegals to vote. I simply don't buy the idea that people who can already be deported at any minute care enough to vote that they risk being deporting by doing so. Does it happen I'm sure it does. But does it happen in the orders of magnitude you're proposing probably not. Either way I can't prove a negative that it doesn't happen which is why the burden of proof is on you to show it is happening. Most scientific attempts to study this find voter fraud is relatively minuscule and could maybe flip a very local election but is unlikely to affect a federal election in a significant way. Unless you have evidence to the contrary everything you're saying is mere speculation and has very little substance to it.
     
  8. there were several reports of illegals being bussed in to vote, including in nevada. Dont be so naive to think that the dems wouldn't have something to gain by doing this...considering that they had already rigged the election completely against your boy and also cheated on the national debates. Those are the things we all know as fact...but there is a lot more if you would open your eyes and look.
     
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  9. and here is just a short sumnation of the california voting laws. Including SAME DAY VOTING/REGISTRATION. Yes, obviously some very hard vetting going on there!
    Voting in California - Ballotpedia

    According to the Office of the California Secretary of State, "in most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place." A voter may be asked to provide identification at the polls if it is his or her first time voting (this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number). Acceptable forms of identification include driver's licenses, utility bills, or any document sent by a government agency. For a complete list of acceptable forms of identification, see this list.[7]

    yeah, no cause for concern here. sounds like a tightly locked up system for sure..... /s
     
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  10. This is why the states were created and the federal government should burn (not that I agree with statism anyhow). If you live in the huge ass bumble fuck areas and hate that the tiny blue dots, hundreds of miles away, stand for then you should not be forced into their ideology. Same with the little blue dots. If you want to live in a sardine can of a city and try yet another failed attempt at socialism and all that the left has to offer then go do it there and leave the rest alone.

    Don't try to use law and government to force people into doing things your way.
    Same goes for the right before I get called a damn Republican.
     
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  11. #92 Praetorian, Jul 12, 2017
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    Discount? Absolutely not. Those states have their vote, and it counted for what it counted for. It was not enough to elect their gal. Now they're up in arms because they disagree with the same system that elected Obama.

    Considering that Trump won the majority of states, and the electoral vote, while Clinton only exists because of two states, I am ok with his victory.
    I am not discounting NY and CA, I am pointing out that crying about Clinton's popular victory while she only exists politically because of 2 states is a weak attempt at anything, especially considering Trump won with media odds and efforts against him.

    Considering how biased the mainstream media was for Clinton, and how "unpopular" it was to vote for Trump since it was considered "racist, xenophobic, sexist" according to CNN , MSNBC, and other outlets, it wouldn't surprise me if he had won in a landslide, had the election been mainstream equal and his and his voters' characters weren't on full blast 24/7.
     
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  12. Donald Trump Jr told Fox News' Sean Hannity that he did not tell his father about last year's meeting: "It was such a nothing. There was nothing to tell.

    "I mean, I wouldn't have even remembered it until you started scouring through this stuff. It was literally just a wasted 20 minutes, which was a shame."


    Russian actors had nothing on the lying, cheating and murdering Ms. Clinton? Sure, okay.
     
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  13. Do you support right of secession for the states you want to rule over with your concentrated democratic hoards?

    The whole point of the UNITED STATES government is to provide representation from each STATE, not each individual. You have state and local governments that offer direct democracy and popular vote.
     
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  15. It must have been Clinton or aliens. The Trumps don't tell lies, they're the most trustworthy, American loving family ever!
     
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  16. "On Capitol Hill, Democratic senators were happy to talk about Kushner. Connecticut’s Chris Murphy, a member of the Senate foreign relations committee, said: “I don’t know why Jared Kushner still has a job. He allowed the president of the United States, the vice-president, every spokesperson in the White House to openly lie about his contacts with the Russian government.

    “You don’t think the Republicans would be calling for the resignation of an Obama official who allowed the president and the vice-president to openly lie about a major national security issue? He watched his father-in-law go on TV and say, ‘No one in my campaign talked to the Russian government.’

    “He knew that was false. Either he didn’t alert the president or the vice-president, or there’s a much bigger problem, and the president and the vice-president knew that they were lying.”

    Democrats clamor for Jared Kushner's security clearance to be revoked

    Democrats clamor for Jared Kushner's security clearance to be revoked
     
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  17. #98 SmokinP, Jul 13, 2017
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    It appears now that Donald Trump knew all about this meeting.

    "Trump promised a 'major speech' attacking Hillary Clinton just hours after Donald Trump Jr set up a meeting with Russian lawyer who promised dirt on the Democratic candidate"

    -In a speech on June 7, 2016, Trump said he'd deliver a 'major speech' on Clinton

    -The speech came just four days after Donald Trump Jr was contacted by about information from Russian government that he said would incriminate Clinton

    -Hours before Trump's speech, Trump Jr set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer

    -Trump Jr met with the lawyer on June 9 but said that he learned nothing of value

    -The President failed to follow through with his promise of a 'speech' on Clinton

    Trump teased Clinton speech after Trump Jr set up meeting | Daily Mail Online

    This is treason. Pure and simple. It's all over now.
     
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  18. #99 AugustWest, Jul 13, 2017
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    False.

    I do agree that it's gonna come out that trump knew about the meeting.
    It's obvious that he did..

    Still not treason tho.
    Wishing for things doesn't make them fact, no matter how hard you wish.

    Please look up the definition of treason as stated in the US constitution..

    What damage was done, or information exchanged to warrant charges of treason?
    Plus the US isn't at war with Russia..

    Not treason.

    No way will they ever set a precedent that getting oppo research from a foreign government and lying about it constitutes treason and a possible death sentence..
    No way.
     
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  19. Total setup job imo..
    But Trump is an idiot for falling for something so obvious and deserves the consequences.
    And to do it via email and probably phone call which audio probably exists. It's just idiotic..


    It would be like getting an email saying.. "I would like to purchase 1 pound of marijuana for $3000.00. Do you agree that you will sell me illegal marijuana?"

    The wording in that email is so fucking obvious.. Any idiot would reply "not interested"
     

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