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Discussion in 'Politics' started by yurigadaisukida, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Liberals call libertarians paranoid, but then say without gun control schools will get shot up.Liberals call libertarians paranoid but then cry about how evil rich people are out to get them.Neocons call libertarians paranoid but are terrified of a terror "threat" that kill less innocent americans than our own police doLibertarians are paranoid but if we legalize drugs society will crumbleLibertarians are paranoid but evangelicals think there is a global war on godShall i continue? The hypocracy is laughableSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  2. Yuri, that is a lot of stereotyping.  You just stereotyped liberals, neocons, evangelicals, and libertarians.   If there is one thing that you have learned from communicating with fellow blades on GC, I hope it is that stereotyping people through labels is fallacious as fuck. 
     
  3. [quote name="RippedMonk" post="19353492" timestamp="1389909202"]Yuri, that is a lot of stereotyping. You just stereotyped liberals, neocons, evangelicals, and libertarians. If there is one thing that you have learned from communicating with fellow blades on GC, I hope it is that stereotyping people through labels is fallacious as fuck. [/quote]You are right i suppose.Or maybe the purpose of the op was to show how silly it all isSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  4. Idk. That's a pretty accurate generalization 
     
  5. I just want to be left alone by the government. What category do I fit into?
     
    What burns my ass up is not just the constant, never-ending infringement on my liberties, but that I work hard for my money yet they demand that I give them half of it. They do absolutely NOTHING to earn one penny of it. But by coercion, backed up by real force if necessary, they just take it.
     
    Serfs had it better than we do; they only owed 1/3 of their time to the Lords.
     
  6. [quote name="Fizzly" post="19353756" timestamp="1389912607"]I just want to be left alone by the government. What category do I fit into?What burns my ass up is not just the constant, never-ending infringement on my liberties, but that I work hard for my money yet they demand that I give them half of it. They do absolutely NOTHING to earn one penny of it. But by coercion, backed up by real force if necessary, they just take it.Serfs had it better than we do; they only owed 1/3 of their time to the Lords.[/quote]I think the debate here revolves around not labling peopleSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  7. An alonist, i guess.
     
  8. [quote name="forty winks" post="19356027" timestamp="1389935013"]An alonist, i guess.[/quote]He didnt say society. He said governmentSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  9. Perhaps accurate labeling is more the point trying to be made.  I was half tempted myself to 'thumbs up' because despite the stereotypes the OP does make a good point.
     
    Good to see you back, Yuri.  You know the Blades won't let shit slide. lol
     
  10. #10 yurigadaisukida, Jan 17, 2014
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    [quote name="LDSR" post="19356495" timestamp="1389939492"]Perhaps accurate labeling is more the point trying to be made. I was half tempted myself to 'thumbs up' because despite the stereotypes the OP does make a good point.Good to see you back, Yuri. You know the Blades won't let shit slide. lol[/quote]A lable requires a definition. Human nature is chaoticNo strict definition can define more than one personAlso. TY! good to be backSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  11. This gets into a discussion I'm trying to start in the Molyneux thread about "labels" and their purpose...but on topic.
     
    The defining factor of paranoia is whether the threat is real or a delusion.  Which is why the ideas must be addressed and not 'groups'.
    Whether the steretypical crazy bum who swears the CIA put a radio in his tooth or the religious zealot who kills her 5 kids so they can go to heaven before life corrupts them and damns them to hell.  
     
    Was the crazy bum a former republican party chairman just 7 years prior?  Was the mother christian?  Islamic?   
     
    One paranoid idea that irks me for obvious reasons is the popular paranoia that keeps the 'war on drugs' in constantly grinding motion.
     
    What popular paranoia really grinds your gears, Blades?
     
  12. [quote name="LDSR" post="19356793" timestamp="1389944153"]This gets into a discussion I'm trying to start in the Molyneux thread about "labels" and their purpose...but on topic.The defining factor of paranoia is whether the threat is real or a delusion. Which is why the ideas must be addressed and not 'groups'.Whether the steretypical crazy bum who swears the CIA put a radio in his tooth or the religious zealot who kills her 5 kids so they can go to heaven before life corrupts them and damns them to hell. Was the crazy bum a former republican party chairman just 7 years prior? Was the mother christian? Islamic? One paranoid idea that irks me for obvious reasons is the popular paranoia that keeps the 'war on drugs' in constantly grinding motion.What popular paranoia really grinds your gears, Blades?[/quote]Paranoia has nothing to do with weather or not the threat is real.From the persoective of the paranoid person it is always real.Paranoia is simply defined as thinking everyone is conspiring against youSent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  13. Fuck, I accidentally deleted a hefty post...
     
    Bottom line:  There is a difference in the dictionary definition(s) and the one popularly used by culture.
    This is the importance of defining your terms in the OP, people.
     
    Going by Yuri's definition my response would be: 
     
    If you aren't paranoid, you aren't paying attention.
    Milgram's experiment for one example.  250+ million victims of democide in the 20th century alone....
     
    I trust my dentist with my teeth.  I trust my grocer with my food.  I trust UPS with my mail...
    I don't know if their is middle ground between 'trust' and 'distrust' but I sure as hell don't trust 'society'.  How can I when there is poplular support for putting more chains on me, for taking more pounds of my flesh?
    If you aren't paranoid, you aren't paying attention.
     
  14. #14 -Martyr, Jan 17, 2014
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    Depends on how you view it. Even the exceptions to these claims would probably agree with a lot of this. Stereotypes all require a few grains of truth to even be a viable means of generalizing the whole of an entire group of people. Not only that, but stereotyping goes both ways. Certain groups of people go out of their way to typecast themselves into a mold as well. It's not like most of the general public actually gives thoughts to the hypocrisy-ridden mentality towards Libertarians. No one could just pull these comparisons out of their ass if there wasn't some truth to them that had previously presented itself in reality.
     
  15. my liberalism includes libertarians
     
  16. I would imagine the most of us who frequent this abode for the mentally insane and bored suffer from some degree of paranoia...

    What who said that ?

    Why are you staring at me ?

    Sent from the back of a fat donkey....
     
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