Lets ban all military style.....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deleted member 638051, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Our constitution proved one thing, that government can not be limited. Anarchy is not chaos it is only the abolishment of monopolies.

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  2. Anarchy is giving a complex and finicky system to a group of people that doesn't know how a toaster works.....

    "Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'
    Tossed salad and scrambled eggs.."
     
  3. Anarchy is not lawlessness

     
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  4. In the libertarian tradition, the anarchist society is merely the society in which individuals are not governed by a state built on monopolized violence and coercion, but instead govern themselves through organizations into which they have entered voluntarily. What is opposed by the anarchist libertarian is the type of civil government known as the state which exercises a monopoly on the means of coercion. It is this monopoly, more than anything else, which characterizes the state, its lack of voluntary association, and its claim of a right to employ unchallenged force over all individuals who just happen to live within a certain geographical area.
     
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  5. Well then why in an anarchical society I can kill someone with no recourse? How can I take without being punished? The only law in anarchy is the strong will survive.
     
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  6. Anarchy is lawlessness!!!
     
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  7. You can't have controlled anarchy when you control anarchy it becomes something else
     
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  8. Well that's not because the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that's because the meny men in power had control it was widespread thinking of the day we all know that's wrong 100% wrong to enslave any person or to take anybody's rights away we all know this to de wrong.
    Today the men and women in power divides us every day and has been since the beginning of time they have always pits One race one Creed one religion against the other it always has been and always will be.
    That's what keeps us divided so we cannot Unite against domestic foes.
    Until enough of us with the right thinking can take control.
    Our government is huge too big it's sorry and sad that it's gotten this bad.
    Terrorism it's another tool they use to keep us divided.
    A militia used to be mandatory in every Commonwealth but now a militia can be considered a terrorist organization.
    I don't get that....
    It's supposed to be in place along with our 2nd Amendment right along with our first amendment rights with all of our rights but they're slowly whittling away our rights cuz our big government wants us the people to rely on it for everything we need. That's socialism or communism however you want to look at it and that's because.
    There's too many people out there that are willing to give up their freedoms for security.
    Too many people that believe in socialism and absolute government rule.
    No free American really wants that.

    Absolutely not.

    So you and I are on the same page mostly.
    We're not so far apart.
    I just don't believe that anarchy is our answer we need law we need government. Our government needs to be kept in check.
    The government supposed to be in fear of the people not the people to be in fear of the government.
    That's how our forefathers designed it all. Our government now is way out there and way too big and we don't have a way right now to make that right.
    I'll rest now. I have nothing further to say. It is what it is until enough people decide to make the change. There will not be a change and they will keep taking and taking and taking until it's gone until they have absolute control.

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  9. anarchy is not a lawless society, it has everything you see around you today without a monopoly control on force.
     
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  10. So in libertarian tradition can I be a democratic communist?
    Then can I be a monarchied oligarchy?
    If I can't be any of those above I cannot be an anarchist libertarian and neither can you. Please don't try to change the meanings of word to fit your doctrine.
     
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  11. See my post Guns, Anarchy and the Wild West.

    There was no government but there was law enforced by the people.

     
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  12. yes and yes
    Definition- Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects hierarchy.
    this is its definition, nothing about chaos..... you need to stop changing the meaning of words.
     
  13. #354 Gruntgrower, Mar 13, 2018
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    Small town sheriff was a form of government. Hell they were even elected democratically!!! Government be it small scale it was still government!
    Definition of anarchy:
    Definition of ANARCHY
     
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    Really??? And I'm changing the definition?
    Yeah learn more about what you speak of before you throw something like that out, especially some bs definition bent to make a word sound cool in an otherwise ok setting. IMO being an anarchist liberal is like saying punk/pop makes sense.
     
  15. I am realy sorry that you see complete government control as being Anarchy.
    Possibly it's your youth it makes you see it that way. Or maybe it's from you are from the me generation that makes you see it that way.
    A lot has changed I'm older I'm now in my early 50s when I was growing up as a teenager we had a lot of freedom. A lot more freedom. But many many many of those freedoms have now been desecrated and taken away.

    Monopolies don't make anarchy.
    Monopolies are Commerce.

    But it's been good chatting with you my friend and maybe someday we can meet on the same page and see somewhat eye-to-eye cuz none of us will ever agree whole-heartedly on anything but some of us agree on some things our government is out of control and too big.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  16. I got to say one thing for you sir or ma'am that I admire you cuz you're standing for something cuz
    if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything.
    Have a good day

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  17. The most obvious general myth is that anarchism equals chaos. Seriously, who in their right mind wants chaos? Not anarchists. Yet this myth is interesting as it says more about current society than it does anarchism.

    After all, what is chaos? It is a situation where anyone can coerce anyone else as much as can get away with. That is, ruling them. Chaos equals everyone acting like a state or boss. Or, in other words, the state is legal chaos, just “legal” coercion and rule as defined by itself.

    Hence the old anarchist saying that “government is chaos, anarchy is order”!
     
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  19. Gallagher said the same thing and it was for humor not for literal meaning. "If pro is the opposite of con, then isn't congress the opposite of progress."
    So I will kick this dead horse again true anarchist, want NO form of government at all.
    I think what you are meaning is the American Anarchist, not true anarchist, want a controlled form of absolute freedom. Which you cannot have in a modern society with out someone to decide morally what is right and wrong which is a form of government. Again not the definition of a true anarchist.
     

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