is the end closer than we think?

i'm not giving a definate answer... i'll let you decide for yourselves. the following quote is talking about the first seal judgement of God after the rapture. in other words, it's talking about the antichrist.

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering and to conquer." - Revelation 6:1-2

Antichrist will go forth conquering and to conquer. he's given a crown which shows that he is successful. if you'll notice that he has a bow, but no arrow. this shows that he's going to conquer peacefully.

here's my question. what is it now that the world wants more than anything? if any of you pay attention to the news, you'll notice that there's more people protesting this war than anything else in the history of the planet. 1 day alone there was a 10,000,000 person protest against the war in Iraq. the biggest ever recorded. there were literally hundreds of thousands of people from countries all over the world protesting. what do they want? PEACE. what will the antichrist promise? PEACE...

i'm not saying the end is going to happen now, or even in our life times... i just think it's interesting how the world is prime for the taking.

 

antichrist will be from the eastern hemisphere... at least according to scripture. bush isn't antichrist. BUT if all this happens while he's still in office, it'll explain why America isn't mentioned in the scriptures as a world power.

after antichrist has conquered, he'll be in control of the world. BUT there will be a few countries out there who revolt against him... and they'll be squashed.

"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."

Antichrist takes peace from the earth by totally destroying any countries that revolt against him. knowing bush... if this all happens while he's in office, he's going to be one of the countries that attack... then this country will be wiped off the face of the planet... hence the reason we're not mentioned (this just being a theory of course). WWIII will happen... not sure if america will revolt or not.

 

first, i'll start with sensi. no... this war isn't the third seal. the first 4 seals (aka the four horsemen of the apocalypse) are as follows, the white horse (antichrist), the red horse (war), the black horse (famine), and the pale horse (death). Antichrist will come proclaiming peace, and will become ruler over the world. then WWIII happens. war breaks out but antichrist destroys the opposition. then famine and death pretty much coinside with eachother after the war. none of this happens until after the rapture (when Christ comes to take those who are saved to heaven so they don't have to endure the Tribulation Period). one day millions will disappear without a trace, as it says in Matthew 24 (paraphrasing) '2 will be grinding at the mill, one will be taken and the other left'. it also says it'll be as in the days of Noe (Noah) which shows that the times are going to be really bad (like they are now), and that it'll happen suddenly (like the flood).

now... onto zylark's post. yes, that is one theory that some have about Revelation... that it was talking about rome and all that. but MOST on the otherhand don't believe that. mainly because most of the stuff in revelation never happened with rome. ie, there was no 144,000 jews that got saved and went throughout the world preaching the gospel. there wasn't 2 witnesses in jeruselam proclaiming antichrist for who he really was during the roman empire like what will happen during the tribulation period. so yeah... it's a bit more convincing when looked at that way.

 

first off... the Bible says to preach the Gospel to all nations. meaning give them the chance IF THEY WANT TO to get saved. if they don't it's their choice. some people still try to force it, but they shouldn't.

if it comes next week, cool. you're right, there is no stopping it. i just posted this to provoke thought... not to start an argument.

oh, and another thing you're right about. the Islamics don't go door to door... they just blow you up while you're riding the bus, or shoot you in the head if you refuse to deny the Bible. now, mind you, they don't do this to everyone... just Christians and Jews... again... just like the Bible predicted thousands of years ago.

you can not believe in prophecy all you want... but when so many of them come true it at least makes me wonder.

did you ever think that maybe the person knocked on your door, or stopped you in the street because they're concerned? ever think that they're doing it because they don't want people to go to hell? i bet not...

again, this thread was meant as something to provoke thought... not another debate. we already have one of those going if you wanna debate, post in the other thread... if you wanna talk about how it's at least interesting that this stuff was written so long ago and is happening, post here

no hard feelings?

 

that's the thing though... most of them aren't vague. there's one in the old testament speaking about islam (before it was a religion). it mentioned people who would bow to the sun (the east), hate the God of Israel, and cause a lot of violence. now we have islam and the islamic fundamentalists that are always blowing shit up. fitting the prophecy exactly.

there's another that speaks of a falling away of the churches right before the end times that is currently in the process of happening.

there's one that speaks of a great power from the north (most believe this to be russia), along with mideastern allies which will attack israel to wipe it off the map... but will fail. this hasn't happened yet, but it very well could. we already know russia's very friendly with the mid-east... and that both russia and the mid-east hate israel and would love to see that nation gone. (i actually read a newspaper article a while back concerning this... not the prophecy, but the possibility of the attack).

i could go on listing prophecies after prophecies that are very specific, but i'm sure no one wants to read such a huge post.

 

i don't quite get what you're saying with the second part of your post.

the whole "opposite religion" thing doesn't make any sense. atheism is an opposite religion to every other religion in existance, yet they don't share the same hatred for those religions as they do for Christianity.

as for the first part. i guess the writer just guessed that the "opposite religion" would bow to the east when they pray? hmmm... i can think of only 1 religion that does that. i guess he got the hatred for Christians and Jews with a lucky guess as well, huh?

i'm sorry, but that's a legitimate prophecy, that's very specific, that came true. a group that bows to the east, hates the God of Israel, and is the cause of a lot of violence. i can only think of 1 group that does this... and the thing is, this was written BEFORE this group even came into existance... how can you deny that? quite simply, you can't.

another prophecy... it's said that people will hate Christianity especially ("people will hate you for my name's sake" - Jesus). and it's true. look at the world today... say you're any other religion and you're accepted just fine. say you're a Christian and you get all kinds of criticism for it. preaching Christianity is banned in several countries. there's also the countries that if you preach it the civilians will just simply kill you. the 9-11 attacks were just attacks on America, they were attacks on Christianity (seeing as how America was founded on Christianity).

i watched this thing on tv about the taliban and all that. they were showing some videos from one of the terrorist training camps... all the dummies and targets they had to "kill" all had crosses going across their chests.