How do I compost my crap? I'm vegan...

I think you should try it as a folier treatment

 

I sprout any number of grains and then once sprouted I fermented them using a product that contains over 10 lactobacillus strains as well as 4 PNSB bacteria strains (Purple Non-Sulphur Bacteria) for their photosynthesis benefit as opposed to applying specific phytohormones.

YMMV

FLD

 

If you have a little money to spend, like $200 to $400 depending on features, try this Nature Mill. Works indoors and by itself. Accepts Up to 5 lbs of food scraps a day. Makes small rich batches every week or two, depending on how much you put in. You can literally empty any food off your plate directly into this unit. Virtually little pre-screening is necessary.
Here's the Nature Mill website -> http://naturemill.com/

If you want to DIY, try a bin full of store bought compost or wormcastings and mix your scraps in. This can't handle as much food but you could have maybe 2-3 bins to handle a relatively busy kitchen. I stir the bin with a shovel every time I add more material

-pic of garage bin for food scraps-

 

Well, I love my soil, but I am no where near into it enough to compost my own waste. Probably kill my plants with one shot, considering my diet, hah.

Humanure hasn't really come up much on this board. However, if you take a look around other growing forums, like that one with IC in it's name, you'll find some resources that may be interesting.

Good luck.

 

Vegans are weird.

 

Sylosis, you certainly don't need another person dinging on ya for this and for the life of me I can't figure out one single good reason why you would want to use human excrement compst on a plant. That said, I try to judge not what others do in life.

I suggest one of either a) doing a search for 'waterless toliet'. Somewhere within that search result you'll find something useful to aid you, or b) crap in a 5 gallon bucket, paper can be included, add a nitrogen source such as an organic complete fertilizer, a compost starter, and cover loosely with a lid to keep bugs out but allow for air/gas exchange. That will do it for ya.

Good luck.

 

Oh my Gawd! "Humanure"... that's killer, absolutely hilarious. Did you come up with that? I'm keeping it, it should be in the dictionary like that.... hahahaha. Thanks.


Hey poster, Japan used it for thousands of years, 'nightsoil' it was called. The island's never had cattle, sheep, goats, no large animals on it at all beside some horses from the 1600's on, it's a fishing and birding society. They used human nightsoil and bird compost to grow the vegtables that kept them alive and their protiens were sea life in small amounts and legumes. With almost vegan diets they did fairly well, with the exception of pinworm, flatworm, ascaries and flukes, but i doubt you'd have those in this era.

 

Hahahaha!

No offense but you ARE trying to save and use your own shit!

But you should look up the Vegan Organic Network, they believe that using their own "Humanure" is perfectly acceptable.

 

I am amazed by peoples reactions to the human waste concept, because compost is compost, and all of it decomposes... it's more that vegetarians' make a more vitamin rich one, and it decomposes rapidly and completely, carnivore's manure decomposes more slowly due to it's overall make up and with some residual protiens or something like that, omnivores maure decomposes slower than vegan, faster than carnivore. It's somewhere in between. Stear manure is one that you'd think was vegan, but their diet isn't what you'd think, grass stuffs, it's heavy in aminal waste protiens and is more of a omnivore diet that we feed them. If we composted human waste, instead of 'treating it' and conduating it into the oceans, we'd stop seeing ocean changes like algae 'blooms' and other weird stuff. Refeed the soil with what we are taking from it seems to fit somehow with what the planet process as a whole would be like if humans didn't exist. Animals wouldn't put all the poo's on the continent and direct them all into the closest waterway, after adding some chlorine to kill the microlife. Might as well chuck tankers of concentrated food into the ocean, it's just as artifitial. It might sound friggin weird to some, but human manure, humanure is something that really should be composted as able, like septic tanks, especially in big citys where sewer use prevalent. Present concepts have been shown to need change. I wonder why on earth would someone be fully unwilling to use a fully thermally hot composted humnaure but go out and buy steer/bat/chicken/worm manure, but i see it. So that steer taking that big hot steaming dump is much different from a human animal? Chicken shit sounds less noxious, but really, it's that black and white running stuff we use.... as a fully hot thermally processed compost.... it's not different from my thinking. well globally anyway. I have this really LEFT sided brain, and with it I nurse for a living. Plus i love to play devil's advocate.

I predict this thread gets a a lot of traffic, it's an odd one!

 

Call me narrow-minded, but I'm not composting my shit or using others composted shit - vegan or not - for growing anything.

 

If bokashi would work, so would Lactobacillus then. So rice wash added to milk, then strain off the flaoting solids from the clear stuff on the bottom 5 days later, add that clear stuff to the waste and it would hydrolyze the turds also.

Hey anybody reading this, someone sent me a link to a grow on another site, and it's using humanure! It's interesting for sure.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=190679

 

Actually many fertilizers are made from 'public or municiple waste' these days, they bottle it and called it something cute and maybe put frogs on it or something and sell if for lots of money. The government had to post their allowing it, here's what the legislature page looks like in Wa:

RCW 70.95J.005: Findings

Apparently it's more about the processing of it and not so much what species of crap the nute companies use. And if it's human it called 'biosludge'

RCW 70.95J.010: Definitions.

But i still don't have anything but plants in my compost bin

Here is a bigger list of links to rules on fertilizers:
Chapter 15.54 RCW: Fertilizers, minerals, and limes

As a non-user of bottled anydamnedthing, as probably are you, we don't have waste-derived stuff on our plants...well humanure waste anyhow.

 

I've grown in composted cow excrement that was only amended with (inert) perlite. The plants did very well. The fecal matter came from cows my dad raised and fed. Their diet consisted of grass/chopped corn/grain.

So, unless it has to do with the four stomachs thing, cows and people should be able to produce poop on the same level shouldn't they? In terms of growing potential anyway.

 

I like the idea that people are trying to be more self sufficient and looking for alternative ways to feed their plants but come on!

There are ALWAYS scraps that can be composted, leaves to collect for humus, and manure from grass fed cattle to be properly used.

I see a lot of people saying that it should be the same thing if people and cows have a vegan diet and therefore should produce the same basic compost but...

I know some vegans and they seem to think it is OK to drink alcohol, smoke American Spirits, and to take prescription medication. All of which can be passed through the system and adversely affect the compost.

So would I trust their own composted Hamanure?

Fuck No!

The problem with this is: Cows and Humans are not the same! Humans have completely different pathogens and microorganisms living within them than cows do.

Has anyone ever tried to compost fowl manure? Believe me, the ammount of ammonia and methane produced from any bird waste, if not properly composted can make you VERY Sick!

I think Humanure can be achieved but I would be VERY careful if I were going to attempt it.

And yeah, come on IT IS WEIRD!

 

Wow. That's more info about rotting shit than I ever wanted to know.