20 killed in US drone attack in Pakistan Let us baske in this historic moment, Obama's first 20 kills as commander in chief... The first black president ever to bomb a sovereign nation without their support! And to think the Pakistanis had hoped for change...
Pakistan president probably wants Obama to clean up that part of Pakistan, he obviously has a hard time governing it. We are at war with the Taliban not Afghanistan or Pakistan, I think that is a hard distinction for you to make.
From the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/23/AR2009012301220.html?hpid=topnews Seems like a program that preceeded President Obama to me. However disturbing to me is that Obama's press secretary wouldn't discuss it in morning briefings. Perhaps they wish to get all their facts together (the number of dead is disputed) before they make a statement. We may not be at war with Pakistan, but I doubt their goverment requested the strike, since the Post article details that Pakistan has been decrying the bombings, and also the target of the strike (who was apparently killed) had little or no ties to the Taliban that were known.
if god wills it. no but seriously, that is all rhetoric, the Al-queda cells if we have any here would be blown to hell. You guys are always complaining of surveillance on US citizens well, there you go. If there were any cells here they would be taken care of accordingly, like that attempt on the train station. I think most people forget about that, in that stretch US surveillance worked out to our benefit and probably saved many lives if those plans had been executed.
igotjoints4ya, have you ever used google earth? Download it. If the public is allowed this kind of surveillance, would it not surprise you if the government had real time visuals and audio capable of zooming in on a dime? How, then, do you justify YEARS to eliminate a group of individuals in such a small part of the world? It is ridiculous... the conflict is meant to continue.
I use google earth. I looke at my house and noticed a blue roof from the hurricane. that means that photo was taken 5 years ago, that is some real-time surveillance bro. Tell me what am I doing that the government will want to waste there time watching and listening to me with a satellite that costs millions of dollars.
Who am I to say there is, it is not my job to know. What I do know is there is a whole section of government devoted to it, so hopefully they got there shit together.
Right, because they'd give the public the cutting edge. I'll admit, I'm not familiar with satellite capabilities, but I assume they're pretty much to the point where the can see anywhere, anytime, in great detail. But, yeah, definitely an assumption.
There is a difference between holding your convictions and assumptions, you must cast out most assumptions you have and only keep said convictions. All you can work on in life is what you know, and if you do not know learn.
And what reinforces your political convictions? Do you really doubt that satellite's can't, in real time, deliver imagery nearly anywhere, anytime? What are you talking about ---> "Tell me what am I doing that the government will want to waste there time watching and listening to me with a satellite that costs millions of dollars." Did I say the government was after you? You reinforce their delusional messages, why would they care about you? Why couldn't we have neutralized the Taliban over YEARS with satellite technologies that could completely expose them - my only point.
well I am just looking at this from a practical standpoint, what does the government stand to gain from watching us.
I think your still hooked on that RFID argument. I believe he was arguing that the government should have been able to find Bin Laden with their tech, insinuating that the entire War on Terror is scam only to ensure the profits of our war-based economy.
Well I sure you will jump to some more conclusions now that Obama put a military supply company lobbiest in his secretary of defense seat. All great empires spent roughly more on there military than anything else, it a niche that cannot be undone.
It would be a renaissance if that spending was to be cut, even just in half. Will not happen tho, due to terrorists and weed smokers. Fucking hippies....