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Hallucinating Hash Capsules for Hemp Heads

Discussion in 'Weed Edibles' started by BrassNwood, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. When I was a teen in the UK, we had a hash we called soap....
    damn you smoked that for a week, you needed a lung specialist... don't know what was in it... but THC was not the major chemical!
     
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  2. #622 rpangelov, Jul 3, 2019
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    Yes... kind of that. I had not seen this stuff for couple of years here, but it seems like now there is some soapbar on the market again. Sad to see this... but anyway - trusted sources and paying a little bit more, I still can get good hash luckily. But people must be carefull as this soapbar contains unknown chimicals... and this can be dangerous.

    EDIT: I got some hash from my source for the price of 4,50 euro per G. I bought 10... cap with 4 drops make me cry again... without any doubt, this is the most efficient way to use thc! I can cofirm that after 10 years of smoking/wasting my material. I could smoke up to 0,5 of this hash in a joint without being that wasted. 4 drops are 0,07 of a gram... and I cant stand up from the chair... smoking is really far from efficient!
     
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  3. I haven't read all your recent update posts but did you ever try to follow my advice about dosing with something fatty in your stomach first?
     
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  4. UPDATE.

    well not to much to update on. I took 3 each of the control caps i made. took them 3 nights apart from each other, and I didnt get the least bit sick at all from either one.
    I really was hoping that the coconut/lecithin control caps I made would make me sick. I've determined 100% its not the coconut oil making me sick. so if these caps caused the stomach pains, it would mean it is the soy lecithin causing the stomach cramps.
    Unfortunately like I said neither control pill made me sick AT ALL.

    so now i'm really confused. I eat commercial edibles sold from dispensaries all the time, I've had THC/CBD pill caps from dispensaries and never had an issue with cramps.

    I'm not giving up on this and am going to continue to try to work through it.

    i've got some sunflower lecithin so that will be the next attempt and if that doesnt work I think i'll try making them with some shatter or distillate.

    going to wait a month or so before trying again.

    Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
     
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  5. I think using the shatter or distillate is an excellent idea. You may be super sensitive to any kind of plant matter in your caps. Good luck,@JKill
     
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  6. I recently made some hash caps with great success.

    My first batch was as follows
    2tsp coconut oil
    .4 tsp letichen
    4.1 grams hash

    Did the freeze and reheat 3x 25 drops per capsule, ate 4 throughout the day and was very stoned even tho I only hit my bong 2 times all day. (Daily smoker)

    Second batch I made
    6.2 grams hash a-
    240 for 45izh minutes
    1 and 1/4 tsp coconuts oil
    1/8 letichen

    I wanted to see if I could make them more potent but it’s too thick to put in caps now should have listened to the thread... what can I put this infused coconut oil into now ??

    Thanks


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  7. Why not just add a little more coconut oil to thin it out?
     
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  8. A touch more coconut oil and a warm surface like the mug warmer should get it workable.
    Mine is just at the edge of workability and needs to be very warm almost hot and stirred constantly to draw up the eyedropper.
    BNW
     
  9. Is this because of the liquid/hash ratio?

    I was planning on doing this only with buds, i suppose they ought to be chopped/ground as much as possible.


    Side note- is grinding herb before decarb best? Read conflicting tales


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  10. Yes. Mine is as thick as possible and still be workable

    Decarb can be anything from pea sized to flour grade.

    I use a coffee bean grinder to get it started then rub the almost powdered buds through a fine wire mesh filter to get it as near flour consistency as I can. Remove any large lumber chunks that might stop up the eyedropper.
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    The Kief I use most of the time comes through a 160 micron mesh so I don't need this step unless I'm making bud oil for a very low dose user like my wife. 2-5 mg is good for her. I take more like four 80mg caps for a total of 320mg.

    BNW
     
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  11. So just to report once again:

    I calculated how much money did I gave to make almost 1000 caps. I gave a little more than what I gave time ago for just 2 weeks smoking it!!! This is impressive. I use 1 cap per day as I don't want to raise my tolerance to the sky again... and every night I am seriously out of space. This stash can last me for almost 3 years... mindblowing. Anyway... gave some to friends and family... and I got some nice reports. Months ago one friend of me was really f*cked up (he never smoked) other friends which smoke ones in a while got pretty baked confirming to me this stuff is way more potent than smoking a fatty. My brother which smokes like I did before - depends on tha day but somewhere between 1g and 3g of high grade hash/weed EVERY DAY he needs up to 3-4 caps (size 4 with 4-5drops) to get really baked. He told me yesterday that this caps can shot him, like no joint can do now because of his tolerance. So as I got reports from different users I can conclude almost for sure that smoking builds tolerance pretty fast and because of that lots of people have difficulties with the RIGH DOSE edibles. As I won't take 2 of this caps at once as that intense can feel really uncomfortable, other users which smokes on daily basis can take up to 3-4 to feel pretty wasted... like I do from just 1. I stopped smoking in februari and for 4 weeks I didn't took any edibles, my tolerance dropped way down. Somewhere in march I took my first cap after 4 weeks break and until now, it seems I didn't builded any tolerance as every day this caps are smashing me.

    Second think about this caps... every time I take one it wakes my creativity and I can play music for hours... it also feels like the music is going through your body, like you can hear with your hands... like music is going out of the speakers and you body absorbs it with every part on it... really hard to explain. You dont follow the pattern you will, but you live in it and it gets really addictive to play music while I'm smashed! I learned only not to panic when the effects are on its max! This is not easy as I can't remember when was the last time smoking a fatty got me feel like that... I guess never. Or maybe the very first time.... but not that intense. This caps really help me to live within the music and feel it on different way. Like... you can touch the sound... touch the music :p It sounds strange but maybe I'm overdosing a little bit... which seems strange to me from consuming just caps with 4 drops in it. One year ago when I smoked daily, I must take 2 cap 0 size filled to the top and even then the effects were not that intense... so keep in mind smoking weed/hash is your biggest enemy! Weed/hash is not supposed to be smoked!
     
  12. It really is hard to compare just how deeply the hash-coconut-lecithin caps hit. Even after being on the stuff continuously for years it'll still knock the fool right out of me if I want it to. Just take more until your so blasted you can't stand up. That is when things get intense.

    I'll admit I like to get right up against that razor edge of almost to much. It is that tipping point where just one toke off the pipe will be to much. I'll refuse the dab rig when TTS offers it knowing just how hard that stuff hits on top of a good load of capsules. I've been lost in space more then a few times at his place for a dab session while capped and WOOHOO it gets wild as can be.

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  13. Today I went to my source to ask him personally about the low quality hash he is selling... just to get more info for my self. He explained to me that all the products he sells are clean ... at least "as much as possible". He told me guys in morocco don't mix the kief/hash with anything else, because they sell it in it's powder form. Being in powder you can better judge the quality. Nobody is buying already pressed hash in Morocco.... even big quantities. So even the cheap hash is is in its powder form. The difference between the expensive hash and the cheaper one is: They beat the plants one time - the first time they beat the plants, they smack not hard... gently through much smaller size mesh in order to collect the best stuff assuring this product will be very potent. Second beat of the plants is more rough through the same mesh. The third round they beat the same plants, but they change the mesh to bigger size and they smack hard on the plants to get the last bits hash out of them. Also they use the not so big plants to produce this hash - plants which are not that big grown as the others because of not getting enough light/water etc. So using a bigger mesh and smacking harder on the plants... next to the kief, there is some plant material falling through the mesh and this plant material is not solving in the oil. He showed me the color difference and its really clear to see how the cheaper hash is more greenish - because of the plant material in it. I made some old school tests for the hash - this is not lab test, but it can give you a direction about a product being good or bad. I test my hash like:
    1. I burn small piece and watch if the hash is bubbling - the more it bubbles, the more potent the hash must be!
    2. How fast it catches fire? Good clean hash will catch the fire almost instantly... so if your hash isn't getting in flames fast, this might be a sign of not clean product. Darker color ash means more plant material in your hash.
    3. The ash when it's burned - ash must be soft, light grey with consistent color. Hard ash, not consistent color ash is sign of not clean product. The lighter the ash the potent your product is.
    4. Smell of burning it - I can't describe the smell of it, but if the hash is mixed with something else you will smell it!
    5. Some times I chew it - chewing your hash you can judge the taste... hard to explain how it "must" taste, but if you feel sandy pieces... it's not clean product.

    This are very primitive ways of testing just to give you a direction. It's good backup plan if you can't lab test it. Anyway... my source told me also hash is mixed with s*it by the buyer, not by moroccans, because if moroccans mix it, nobody wants to buy it. When the "big guys" buy it from the locals in Morocco, they mix it with shit and bring it to Europe. He assured me it's products are clean, but the cheap hash is just not that potent as the expensive ones... pretty logical. As I know the guy I try to trust him. I took 3 grams of this hash today and I made 50 caps out of it. I was unable to use the dropper so I had syringe and it works more than perfect. I tried one cap and I'm so f*cked up again... even this cheap hash can make me cry. I don't know if I am too sensitive too this oil, but I'm serious this stuff is not joke. I paide 10 euros for 3 grams of this hash and I made 50 caps out of it... this is insane. 1 cap is more than enough... I am not even thinking of taking 2.... ever!

    But now I have question about... lecithin. I have soy lecithin capsules - I am pricking them with knife or so and I squeeze them - its brown oily substance. I don't think the type of lecithin matters that much, but I time ago I used just 1 capsule lecithin (they are small... like your 0 size caps), today I used 2 because I think 1 capsule is not enough for .5 tsp, so I used 2 caps lecithin - this equals .5 tsp lecithin. Using now enough lecithin, will this assure the consistence of the caps? Like... every cap will be absorbed the same way as the previous one? What if I used not enough lecithin with my previous cooks? As I feel like... this time, this hash caps hit harder than my previous cook when I used the same hash. Can using enough lecithin result in stronger product?
     
  14. Leaving the lecithin out or not using enough will be felt by the lower strength and shorter duration of the high.
    Using more doesn't matter but not enough will show in the product at least it works that way on myself.
    1/6th of the oil amount seems to be the sweet spot between wasting it with more then necessary and not using enough.

    This was BadKats original recommendation and I experimented enough to agree with her suggestions.

    BNW
     
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  15. Hey brass wanted to start by saying thanks for sharing the recipe! I recently made a batch thicker than you advised and like you said i can’t get it into capsules. My question is can I “cut the infused coconut oil” with more oil without any additional steps? I appreciate it!


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  16. Sure. It'll be a touch weaker but usually not noticeable spread over 30 or more capsules.

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  17. Hey @BrassNwood or someone else with experience here... haha how does tinctures work to you? Hash tincture's I mean... I made a small batch tincture (alcohol 191) some months ago and I just took some drops... LOL... this stuff hits fast!!! Last couple of times I took to small dose I guess, but today I decided to take 8 drops instead of 4. For 30ml oil I use 15grams of hash... but I made the mistake to make 30ml alcohol tincture with 7,5 grams hash... I was a little bit wasted when I made this tincture and I add to much alcohol... it must actually be just 15ml, but anyway. So if I need 4 drops of the oil, from this tincture I will need 8 drops. I just used it and it smacks hard... my father is making it's own moonshine so I tend to use just couple of drops in my tincture just for the taste :D anyway. I made 30ml small bottle with this tincture and I dropped 2 leaf of fig tree - this softers the burn of the alcohol and it gives a nice taste mixed with the hash in it giving it really nice taste... spicy! I made my hash like the oil:
    1. Decarb 5gr hash at 240F (115C) for 40mins
    2. Drop the hash inside 10ml small bottle with dropper
    3. Shake until the hash is solved. It will look like a mud, but perfect to use with dropper
    4. Use it

    So, when do you guys use alcohol tinctures and how? I found it to be more uplifting... the caps are really no joke. I am really like in trance from them. It takes time to hit you, but when it does... I am really wasted. On the other side... this tincture hit's me in like 10 minutes!!! No joke... hahaha
     
  18. I usually do 1 gram of decarbed dry ice Kief in 1 ounce of 190 proof alcohol and put in a 1 ounce dropper bottle. 1 eyedropper full for me.
    Hits fast like smoking but wears off equally fast on me. 45-60 minute high. I'll use it if I need some Right Now relief and can't wait for the Kief caps to kick in.
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    BNW
     
  19. Haha !! I don't know, maybe your hash is better than the one I use - I guess well as you produce it your self... I buy premium morrocan hash, but it's from the black market so you never know how "priemium" it is... but it's potent stuff and it's clean product (still I think locals keep the best stuff for own use... they don't sell it). How many drops is one full dropper haha ? I use 5ml dropper - tiny bottles and 8 drops are like 1/3 of the dropper. Why don't you concentrate your tincture more? I like the burn of the alcohol, but I full dropper will burn more than I want to I think... haha

    Edit: Tinctures seem to not build tolerance at all too....
     
  20. I got 2.2 grams good maroc today and didn't know what to do as I have almost 500caps in my stash... I made some MCT oil - to take it with me and drop it in my coffe...tea, meal and wherever I can.

    I have couple of small bottles - 5ml and couple of bigger ones - 10ml.
    By using 2grams of hash I use 1 teaspoon MCT oil and 1/4 teaspoon lecithin and I can fill the small 5ml bottles to top!!! So it fits perfect.
    I am going to switch again to MCT oil until the bottle is empty and I will share the results of whats the best way to use the MCT oil. It tastes VERY good for sure!
     
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