Guantanamo remembered: A personal perspective

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  1. #1 SmokinP, Jan 18, 2012
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    Read on..................
    Guantanamo remembered: A personal perspective - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
    http://www.cageprisoners.com/

    Shame on you Bush and Obama...
     
  2. Good read, sad sad story
     

  3. :confused: :rolleyes:
     
  4. Inside Gitmo
    Chapter 10: Daily Life at Gitmo


    Content Summary
    • Is confinement at Guantanamo really the inhumane, abusive environment portrayed by activists, some international organizations like the UN, and defense attorneys paint? Here we look at day-to-day conditions that exist in Gitmo.
    • Would it surprise you to learn that beginning with the Camp X-Ray days in early 2002 detainees have always had better chow, better medical care, and better living conditions (less freedom of movement, of course) than have American soldiers and sailors who guard them?
    • Learn how detainees receive 4,200 calorie, Halal meals daily, cooked to stringent standards and from a menu that rotates more frequently than the variety given US military personnel. You may be shocked to learn of the over-the-top efforts taken on Muslim feast days like Eid, the end of Ramadan, to prepare large, expensive meals for them to celebrate.
    • Discover that the US spends twice as much on food for detainees than for American soldiers in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    • Medical care is extraordinary. Prosthetic limbs given detainees are the same quality used to treat US combat veterans. Detainees see a physician on average 4 times monthly. Contrast that number of doctor's visits with a typical US male who may see a doctor 3.7 times annually.
    • Full dental care including implants and dentures is available on-call to detainees.
    • While some came with active diseases such as TB, they have been treated and immunized for disease. For many detainees this is a first in their lifetimes.
    • Voluntary colonoscopies are available for men over 50, heart surgery has been performed, and psychiatric treatment is offered.
    • Discover how hospital visits degenerated into virtual riots, how nurses and medical personnel were routinely assaulted, and how too-liberal dispensing of medications was used in suicide attempts.
    Inside Gitmo Chapter 10: Daily Life at Gitmo
     
  5. Sources for that book...


    Hmm. Who to believe, the people who run Guantanamo or people who survive Guantanamo..
     
  6. #7 garrison68, Jan 19, 2012
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  7. I know people who have been there and said they're treated better than any american prisoners.
     
  8. That article states the reason for them not wanting to be returned home is because of the likelihood he gets tortured, or killed upon returning..

    You're up shits creek without a paddle garrison, give it up it's gotta be embarrassing..

    edit: oh look here comes more little cronies into the thread.
     

  9. Sure you do... [​IMG]
     
  10. #11 garrison68, Jan 19, 2012
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    The irony is that if 9/11 had happened to say, Dallas, the people who are defending the "rights" of these terrorists would be lining up to shoot them with everything from crossbows to automatic weapons. But because it happened to New York City and Washington, D.C., well that's just fine and dandy, and as far as they're concerned it's not even worth prosecuting.
     
  11. the irony is that some guantanamo detainees have nothing to do with 9/11 or even terrorism, and that your argument is complete bullshit. what does dallas have to do with guantanamo prison?
     
  12. They are terrorists and are treated as if they're at a luxurious vacation. Who do I complain to to demand stricture regulations?
     
  13. hmmm it seems like your stance is agree with me or you are a cronie and get a troll response. Lovely. :wave:
     

  14. That's a very ignorant.

    Of course people in New York are gonna feel the pain more than anywhere else in the nation. That's obvious.

    However, say a women's husband was murdered on his way home from work. She's obviously going to be traumatized and upset, and she'll wanna fuck up anyone who's even suspected of being involved. However, you don't go ape shit arresting and torturing any suspects, you go through the court of law and determine with evidence who's responsible, and they're justly punished. That's how it works, that's what this country is built upon, that's what's fair and right.

    Evil shit happens. Doesn't mean we have to abandon all our values and principles to get revenge.

    I can't believe anyone would stand up for Gitmo. Are you really that naive to believe the anonymous people who run the prison over several released detainees who all have the same story? Come on man.
     

  15. If we know without a doubt they're terrorists, why don't we bring them through due process and convict them publicly? Why do they get their own prisons? We don't put serial killers and murderers in Gitmo, we publicly try them and sentence them. They killed people too.

    The logic here doesn't add up...
     
  16. The logic of convicting them publicly doesnt add up. They were never read miranda rights, every single case would be dismissed. If every single case wasnt dismissed, it would be a dog and pony show.
     

  17. It has to do with hatred, by some people, of Washington D.C. and New York City.

    If 3000 people were murdered in Dallas do you think that there would be this kind of reactionary response to the alleged mistreatment of suspects at a military base in Cuba? In a word, no. But New York is full of evil people, we all know that, and three thousand less is fine.

    Go ahead, pin a 50 lb. gold medal on your terrorists and war criminals, they earned it.
     

  18. Fair point. Then we screwed the pooch on this one here. I'd still rather see us try to work around something like that than say "Fuck it, keep in in Gitmo forever." I mean the fact that they're releasing people means they obviously don't know for sure that these people are terrorists. And to me that just doesn't sit well that this happens to anyone, let alone innocent people.
     

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