Ok so ive been contemplating were to grow this year. So i found a great spot open but looks like deer go through the area alot. So i brain stormed and thought a natural defence could be thorn bushs. Went in the woods look on some thorn bushs and sure enough i found seed pods with like 2 - 5 seeds in each pod. Grow them on the outside of my plants and keep deer away. what do you guys think?