Well an airline is a pretty pointless example because someone would have to be an idiot to try and hijack a plane with a gun, one stray bullet and the whole thing's depressurized.
No shit. This one asshole was literally screaming his goddamn balls off at me to take off a metal bracelet before going through the metal detector, even though I was already taking it off. Of course, this was back in 2004, so I guess the various American airlines were still reeling with paranoia following 9/11. Last time I boarded a plane from the States was about two years ago and nobody so much as blinked at me while removing my metal apparel.
just saw a piece on the news, some guy said a month ago he could get a gun(I believe he was talking about an AR15) for $600, but now its like $1600. said a bunch of people asking uneducated questions were buying guns out of fear. probly gonna end up with some deaths or injuries because of it. hmmm, no chance? sounds similar to a certain time in the nation's past. wonder how that turned out...oh right we won our independence. we'd find a way to take a tank out, I mean you can make a bomb out of everyday items.
I could care less about crime, that's going to happen in some form regardless of what weapons we have. The real reason I'm against gun control is that our government is getting very scary lately, if the time comes I want to be armed. I wouldn't be surprised if the attacks were planned to push gun control.
Yes, and I carry it (legally) when I feel I should. To be honest a lot of the time I don't carry it because I'm drinking and smoking. Big legal problem if I get caught by a cop.
I am a jurisprudentially inclined man of reason. I am also an American citizen. It is not my view, but rather knowledge that guns serve to neither deter nor stimulate crime rates; it is known as a determined academic fact in political science that there is no correlation either way between guns and crime despite most having opinions to the contrary. I wish I could link you my source, but it is an academic one and you'll have to purchase it yourself or verify via your nearest Doctor of Political Science. Guns are therefore simply there or they are not. Considering I believe it is currently impossible to remove all guns from a population, end gun trade, and prevent their now rather simple design or construction; considering that the Supreme Court in the land has affirmed and upheld the individual's right to bear arms regardless of their relation to a well-regulated militia; and considering it is We the People who have invested our utter sovereignty into the very document establishing this right and the court that affirmed it; I believe the right to bear shall not be abridged until such facts come to light that allow for We the People to reconsider our liberty on the matter. This is my view and I will not only hold it, but I will fight for it as my ancestors and your ancestors before me did. Keep in mind I am a conscientious objector and I can almost guarantee with almost certain accuracy that we define "fight" differently. Now, that said, nuclear arms are still arms and I do not believe it the intention of the Second Amendment to our Constitution to allow corporations to be considered citizens, nor for their employees to have the right to bear nuclear arms; I believe that in order to uphold the original intentions as proclaimed in the Preamble that there is a line to be drawn. Where that line is drawn should be determined by the People. I call for a national referendum system by which an educated public may affirm their right to bear each type of arm knowing its potential to both to harm and protect the People one by one. I believe that every abridgment should require a supermajority of the People to pass, and by People, I mean every citizen of age, not ever registered or active voter. I believe justice may be served no other way without corrupting not only the intention or representation, but the Power and Sovereignty of We the People. Once the Bill of Rights no longer holds true in intention, the Union will unfortunately be divisible and the People, I'm afraid, will fight to divide it themselves, and by "fight" here, I do not mean the conscientious definition, sadly. Some of you may lack confidence in the People, but without Our Power, this government We have established fundamentally does not even exist. We are a democratic constitutional republic; We should act as one, or One, but most can't establish solidarity among over 300,000,000 people. In fact, I think only the collective themselves could do such a thing and protect the individual. You see, I am fairly nonpartisan because I understand that the liberty of the individual depends on the collective and vice versa; the two sides of the political spectrum are not mutually exclusive no matter how hard we try to divide ourselves; Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Socialist, Left, Right, North, South, East, West, We ARE THE PEOPLE.
I see alot of 'facts' and info pointed at gun control, but i do not see any solutions? Say you are the government, what do you do about it? Go door to door with your own guns take them away? You would have a large increase in the amount of bloodshed if you did that. Maybe even a civil war. I wouldn't be against additional mental and criminal screening when purchasing a firearm. But the notion that you can legislate guns out of the hands of criminals is dangerous and comes directly from COMMUNIST ideology. Hell if banning guns will keep them off the streets and out of the hands of criminals we should ban Meth and Heroin too! "Those who would give up essential liberties to acquire a little temporary safety shall have, and deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin.
Here's an idea....instead of going to extremes in either direction, why don't we just accept the fact that life is fucking cruel, and unfair, and people are going to suffer, and die horrific deaths, no matter what we do, and we just have to deal with it? I really don't understand the whole concept of trying to protect everyone from everything, and saving people from dying at every turn. We are all going to die, that is a fact....that's about the only fact of life. Stop fucking with the natural order of things just because you think it's tragic and it tugs on your heartstrings. You're only contributing to further unbalance in the universe.
The amount of money and effort that would go towards; rounding up all the guns, a never ending war on hunting down all those that are unaccounted for, possibly instigating a major network of protests, and giving criminals a leg up on everyone else who abides by the law, (once illicit drugs are gone whose to say the next phenomenon wont be kidnapping and robberies?) Wouldnt it just be easier and a better investment of our money to consider reinstating a new mental health care system? (I know right, look at our regular health care system.)
Exactly. There is no such thing as security. However, I'd like to add.. That education is key to everything. Everything would go a lot smoother if we had a certain level of understanding.. Instead of trying to push something away that's not going to go away.. Accept it. Learn from it. Teach it.
Very wise words, but I must say, how could you sit back and watch the government take all our constitutional rights away that were given to us by our founding fathers one by one? I see where you and the guy you replied to are coming from, but it should be a choice whether or not to carry a gun on you and other citizens should be normalized to it instead of always being scared and calling the cops. Just the fact that Americans think that having a gun is "bad" is terrible for our future generations. Search "open carry" on youtube and you can see alot of these incidences.
Hmm... I'm not entirely sure you're understanding my post. Or maybe I'm not understanding yours? I 110% agree with you. I was saying people need to accept that guns are here and learn about them. Because there is no security, like you had said about people being scared and calling the cops. I've got a big post on page 3 that explains my stance.
Ahh, haha I just thought you agreed with the other guy who was saying "instead of taking action in any direction, just live with the fact that our world is fucked and thier is nothing we can do about it."(Well, that's what i interpreted it as) Which i kinda agree with, but i see that we can stop it from getting worse, and by informing people on GC we are doing our miniscule part in the solution.
Yeah fa show! I agreed with him, too.. My only counter was "education" would be the one thing that could make things better.
Today a man set his house on fire and called 911 to have fire fighters put the fire out. When they pulled up he shot at them from a distance, killing 2 of them, and then killed himself. 'Chaos:' Gunman ambushes, kills two firefighters at New York blaze - CNN.com The man was a convicted felon, and wasn't allowed to have a gun. Do you think banning guns is going to keep them out of the hands of people like this? By the way, he was convicted of killing his grandmother with a hammer in 1980. I don't know when he was released from prison but that means he spent 30 years max in prison and was out on his own. Our justice system as a whole needs a revision, not gun laws.
How about this. We legalize weed and send all the DEA to work for ATF so they can ferret out all the illegal weapons? All those assholes need to keep their jobs, right?