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Government censoring the internet. Also they can take you without probable cause.

Discussion in 'General' started by PeacefulStoner, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. #1 PeacefulStoner, Jan 18, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 18, 2012
    Internet entities such as Wikipedia, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Tumblr said the two bills would force them to be online police and hold them responsible if users of their sites link to pirated content.

    The companies said the bills could require your Internet provider to block websites that are involved in digital file sharing. And search engines such as Google, Yahoo and Bing could be stopped from linking to them - antithetical, they argue, to the ideal of an open Internet.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/01/wikipedia-blackout-sopa-and-pipa-explained/

    They say its to "stop piracy" but they have already stated that there goal is to censor the internet.

    Here's an online petition...

    PROTECT IP Act Breaks the Internet

    There's also a nice video describing the bill on the link above.

    Oh and also on a related topic have you guys heard of the National Defense Authorization Act? Look up S. 1867

    The National Defense Authorization Act basically says the government can come and take someone, without probable cause, without breaking any laws, no trial, no lawyers, not tell anybody where you are, and hold you in jail forever, and they can kill you.

    Oh and guys, this bill already passed, officially or not. Senate passed it, obama passed it, now the house of reps just has to pass it. Senate passed it 187 - 3, house of reps isn't gonna vote any differently.
     
  2. So what would happen If i were to download music off a torrent site on to Utorrent?
     
  3. #3 PeacefulStoner, Jan 18, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 18, 2012
    You mean if SOPA and PIPA pass?
     
  4. ah I don't know, well yeah I guess that's my question then. Blackout as in google and all arent going to work or what? sorry i'm a little confused but interested in knowing
     
  5. I hardly think restricting piracy can be considered a "global blackout"
     
  6. All domains are controlled by ICANN. This is a non-profit corporation located in the USA, so the US government just asks them to null-route a domain.

    It is actually very likely that in the future we will have the "acceptable" internet, which will exclude domains dis-approved by ICANN, and for advanced users we will have another means of accessing the websites that ICANN has canned.
     

  7. Global black out as in the internet sites are "blacking out" like globally man...
     
  8. If this happens, the entire internet will be changed. They are not good bills.

    Piracy will still find a way around it, so it doesn't matter.
     

  9. Yeah the sites are shutting down in protest of the bills. Here's a website with a list of the sites that are shutting down SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site
     
  10. With the way things are going in the god-forsaken country, I wonder how long it will be before people start to revolt and bomb the shit out of their own country...

    Not that internet censorship is cause enough, but that last bit in your post OP... I have no words.
     
  11. The best thing we laymans can do is show solidarity with the titans of internet (google, wiki) when they begin to deny their services to the rest of the world in defiance of the moronic inferno known as the "United States Government", who just want everything to go back to the way it was in the days of Jurassic Park.
     
  12. #12 OpenMindFields, Jan 18, 2012
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    Isn't there a way to access the websites they ban via IP addresses?

    Something to the tune of going start > Run > then something something with the IP.. lemme find it

    ________________________________________________________________________________

    This is what I came accross while I was stumbleupon.. If somebody can figure out how to get it working let me know

    SOPA Emergency IP list:

    So if these ass-fucks in DC decide to ruin the internet, here’s how to access your favorite sites in the event of a DNS takedown

    tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
    wikipedia.org 208.80.152.201

    # News
    bbc.co.uk 212.58.241.131
    aljazeera.com 198.78.201.252

    # Social media
    reddit.com 72.247.244.88
    imgur.com 173.231.140.219
    google.com 74.125.157.99
    youtube.com 74.125.65.91
    yahoo.com 98.137.149.56
    hotmail.com 65.55.72.135
    bing.com 65.55.175.254
    digg.com 64.191.203.30
    theonion.com 97.107.137.164
    hush.com 65.39.178.43
    gamespot.com 216.239.113.172
    ign.com 69.10.25.46
    cracked.com 98.124.248.77
    sidereel.com 144.198.29.112
    github.com 207.97.227.239

    # Torrent sites
    thepiratebay.org 194.71.107.15
    mininova.com 80.94.76.5
    btjunkie.com 93.158.65.211
    demonoid.com 62.149.24.66
    demonoid.me 62.149.24.67

    # Social networking
    facebook.com 69.171.224.11
    twitter.com 199.59.149.230
    tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
    livejournal.com 209.200.154.225
    dreamwidth.org 69.174.244.50

    # Live Streaming Content
    stickam.com 67.201.54.151
    blogtv.com 84.22.170.149
    justin.tv 199.9.249.21
    chatroulette.com 184.173.141.231
    omegle.com 97.107.132.144
    own3d.tv 208.94.146.80
    megavideo.com 174.140.154.32

    # Television
    gorillavid.com 178.17.165.74
    videoweed.com 91.220.176.248
    novamov.com 91.220.176.248
    tvlinks.com 208.223.219.206
    1channel.com 208.87.33.151

    # Shopping
    amazon.com 72.21.211.176
    newegg.com 216.52.208.187
    frys.com 209.31.22.39

    # File Sharing
    mediafire.com 205.196.120.13
    megaupload.com 174.140.154.20
    fileshare.com 208.87.33.151
    multiupload.com 95.211.149.7
    uploading.com 195.191.207.40
    warez-bb.org 31.7.57.13
    hotfile.com 199.7.177.218
    gamespy.com 69.10.25.46
    what.cd 67.21.232.223
    warez.ag 178.162.238.136
    putlocker.com 89.238.130.247
    uploaded.to 95.211.143.200
    dropbox.com 199.47.217.179
    pastebin.com 69.65.13.216

    Here’s a tip for the do-it-yourself crowd: Go to your computer’s Start menu, and either go to “run” or just search for “cmd.” Open it up, and type in “ping [website address],”


    Once you have the IP for a website, all you really need to do is enter it like you would a normal URL and hit enter/press go. Typing in “208.85.240.231” should bring you to the front page of AO3, for example, just as typing “174.121.194.34/dashboard” should bring you straight to the tumbler dashboard.

    Some of those IP addresses are incorrect, just go start > run > then go "ping www.whateverwebsite you want.com" and the ip will pop up
     
  13. who controls the internet.


    So they basically wanna testify the content we see like china does ?
     
  14. Moving to Canada, when I turn 22
     
  15. Also, if it passes and ICANN actually attempts to censor the entire internet, things will totally go fucking cyberpunk!
     

  16. Is that what he meant?

    It sounded like "THE INTERNET IS GOING TO DIE!" lol
     
  17. I know for sure SOPA was rejected.

    The White House also said neither of the bills would pass.
     
  18. Jesus Christ,aren't there bigger problems they should be worrying about?!?!:mad:
     
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