DWC Resivior temp

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by myeden420, May 30, 2019.

  1. hey guy so I just wanted to ask for everyone that uses a dwc hydro set up.....is it needed to chill the water lower than the air temp air temps should be around 76-78 right? if so how do you guys go about chilling. the reason I ask I am a couple weeks into my first grow and I just read the water needs to be colder than air so I am just looking to see what everyone else does THANKS
     
  2. DWC reservoir temps are best when they're kept under 70 degrees F. Daytime room temps are fine between 74-81 or so, but regardless of what those are, reservoir temps should always be kept under 70 degrees F. You can maybe get away with 75, but that's still asking for root issues. I personally try to keep my reservoir temps in the mid 60's, but that's just me.
     
  3. DWC reservoir temps are best when they're kept under 70 degrees F. Daytime room temps are fine between 74-81 or so, but regardless of what those are, reservoir temps should always be kept under 70 degrees F. You can maybe get away with 75, but that's still asking for root issues. I personally try to keep my reservoir temps in the mid 60's, but that's just me.
     
  4. How did that double post happen?? :blink:
     
  5. it happened cause you smoked to much today.....

    any recamendations on how to chill the buckets?
     
  6. You're probably right lol.

    Water chillers, but they're pretty expensive. Frozen water bottles. Those blue ice blocks tend to last much longer than the water bottles though. How many plants are you planning on growing?
     
  7. yeh I have been doing some reading....as far as water chillers....its just not possible right now not enough cash...maybe by the time I get to the 2nd grow that will be a option. so the frozen bottles (or the blue packs) I have read people doing but when I think about it right now the plants are still small so roots aren't coming out of the bottom of the net pot so this probilly wont be a issue now but if I use frozen bottles when the roots start growing wouldnt having a frozen bottle floaing around couldnt the area next to the ice wont the roots get to cold?? I have also read about some people not chilling but use some kinda root builder even heard of throwing a little bleach in the mix I guess this keeps down the alge growth instead of cooling....I forget what the stuff is called one is H202 maybe that sound right?

    right now I have 5 plants all in there own bucket with a net pot on top its the bubble brothers kit from HTG.com
     
  8. cooling coils a stainless steel one though friend of mine even made his own last year works well he says and no electricity used too :)
     
  9. I came up with a little chiller system that I've been using in my last 3 DWC growths without any issues. It requires no electricity, but you have to make sure to change the blue ice blocks when needed. It's not necessarily what you think lol. However, since I only grow 2 plants at a time, I haven't tried this with more than 2 buckets. It may not be for everyone, but it seems to work for me and it keeps my reservoir temps in the 60's and doesn't touch the roots even once. I had explained this once before in a different forum a while back. I'll just copy and paste my explanation from that conversation here:

    Anyway, it’s basically a shallow reservoir with just water and a couple of those blue ice blocks. Then you place your growing buckets into the water reservoir. For some reason those last much, much longer than just frozen water bottles. I use two to three of those ice blocks and it keeps my temps down in the low to mid 60’s for a good 12 hours (at least for me). I change them as needed. So whatever temps are in the water reservoir, those same temps will be in the nutrient reservoir. This way I don’t have to be adding ice blocks directly into the nutrient reservoir and disturbing the root system, etc. Afterward you can cover the water reservoir with black/white poly material so light won’t enter and keep the temps cooler, longer. Water chillers did cross my mind, but my budget doesn’t allow and I just want to use less electrical devices as possible. It has been working for me for years without any issues. Water reservoir can be any size, but I recommend the short shallow ones. Even a smaller, shallow one that can just barely handle a 5-gallon bucket and a couple of ice blocks will work fine too. Hope this helps give someone some ideas for a cheaper way of lowering their reservoir temps. The first pic is a sample of what I described above. The second pic is an actual setup I had for one of my seedlings using a 3-gallon bucket. I transplanted into a 5-gallon bucket right before I flipped. Hope that helps or gives you some ideas. Good luck. water-chiller-01.png ww-03-13-18.jpg
     
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  10. great idea.....so I actually checked and the water is a couple degrees below the air temp but I still threw one of those blue ice bricks in 1 of the buckets (I am leaning on side of caution didn't want to put them in all the buckets and have something go wrong so ill catch up on the rest later tonight or tomorow) the cooling coils seem like a good idea but I am deffinitly going to try the resivior of water idea cannabliss so quick question how deep is the water in the outer container? does it have to be a certain depth whats worked for you?
     
  11. I usually just put the buckets into the water reservoir, add the blue ice blocks, then just add as much water as it can hold without spilling out. The more water, the better imo because it tends to last colder longer. This is the one I used:
    water-reservoir.jpg
     
  12. Just a little advice though. I'm not sure what's your technique when changing the nutrients from your bucket, but I usually use a small pump similar to the one below to pump it out of the bucket, then I use a funnel to pour the new nutes back into the bucket. However, doing it this way tends to make the bucket float up as the bucket becomes more empty. This becomes a problem because then the whole freakin plant will come tumbling down like a tree on your head lol. To prevent this I would tie the bucket down with something or have someone hold it down so it won't float up. Once in flower it tends to happen less and less because the plant obviously gets bigger and heavier. Another technique is to just lift the bucket out and onto a towel because it'll be wet. Do your thing or even change to a different bucket with the new nutes and change the net pot with the plant into the new bucket, then place it back into the water reservoir. I can't do the latter due to back issues, so I do the first one.
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  13. thanks!! so I went a picked up some totes to put the buckets in problem is room it takes up more room than I thought so I have 5 dwc buckets the totes I can fit 4 in but need to get another for 1 bucket the tote I put 2 in takes up to much room I am going to go back and get a smaller one to put in the 1 bucket left over,,,just put the water and ice packs in so I am going to wait a lil bit then check the temp....thanks again ill update on what happens!
     
  14. Sounds like a plan and you're very welcome. :thumbsup:
     
  15. hey canna bliss....just curios to something about how many ice packs do you throw in the water at a time and how often you change them? just curious cause I just threw 3 of them in each resivior they melted pritty quick I am hoping it was due to the fact the water started a lil warm but still the only way it works in my head is if I threw like 10 of them in and changed them every 2 hours THAT IS ALOT OF ICE PACKS!! but then again I said that's how it works in my head but my head is consistently wrong haha
     
  16. Many factors need to be taken into consideration here. First, the room temps will also affect the temps of the water reservoir. If the room temps are high, then obviously the water temps will go up faster. The temps of the lights will also affect the temps of the water res. This is why I also covered the reservoir with that black/white poly material as shown in one of the pics I provided above. Doing that blocks a lot of the light rays from heating up the res as well. I usually use 3 ice blocks and change them every 6 hours or so. My grow room doesn't get so hot, so that sort of helps me as well. Also, whenever I fill the water res, I always start off with cold water. Sometimes I even have a pitcher or two of water in the fridge to add to the res the first time around. As I mentioned above I only grow 2 plants at a time, so to me it wasn't much of a hassle changing the ice blocks.
     
  17. ok yeh I think its just a lot of water too cool cause I swaped out the first set of ice packs after maybe 15 min they were melted but just noticed the 2nd round of ice has been in there for like a half hour and they aren't completely melted so I think once I cool it down they should be alright the ice packs are perfect to slide between the buckets in the plastic tote but there is a spot where I could probilly just fit a gallon jug so I am going to try that tomorow I think that will take a whole lot longer to melt.....forgot about covering the res going to do that right now and really man THANKS AGAIN
     
  18. OK quick update so once I got the water cool its staying cool very easily I thought I would be switching them out like crazy but actually spent a few hours after I got the water to 68 I spent a few hour away at the hospital (mom fell) well by the time I got back it was still under 70 69.4 to be exact so it actually works a lot better than I thought so GOOD CALL! thanks again!!
     
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  19. #19 -Cannabliss-, Jun 1, 2019
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    I'm glad it's working out for you, man. Yea it was just a matter of first getting the water res to the proper temps, then once that's done, you wait a bit until the nute res temps catch up to the water res temps. Once those two temps are more or less even, it's just a matter of changing the blocks on time before they reach dangerous levels.The black/white poly material really helps keep those temps down as well as not allowing fungi crap to form in the water res.

    BTW what size of those blue ice blocks are you using? I use the 8"x5" blocks.

    You're very welcome my friend. :thumbsup:
     
  20. yeh as far as this goes the ice blocks are doing great....last night I set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night to get up and change the ice real quick but I set the alarm but forgot to actually turn it on DUH! but to my surprise this morning it was still at 68 so yeh that was better than expected...Oh and I have 2 size blocks one is 3.5 by 7 in and the others are a lil bit more than double that but it only needed 1 big one to keep it cool all night....is there any specific temp that you wouldnt go lower? like I read you need it below 70 but 55-65 is best...just curious what you think? Thanks again
     

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