Hey grass city, I'm slowly getting caught up with the world and technology, finally bought an Apple...I mean iMac and am learning the ropes of this vast and informative web/ forum stuff..Wow things sure have changed dramatically in the last 7 years. I'm in Oakland CA, I grow mostly outdoor..and am starting indoor. I'm on my second grow season and will post pictures once I figure out how to. Seeing this forum puts a big smile on my face. It is nice to see so many individuals that are independent thinkers and not brain washed by Rockefellar laws. Keep up the good work. If you in Northern CA Bay Area drop a line I can't be the only indoor and outdoor grower here?