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Deficiency or bugs?

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by Kdebi, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Okay guys this is an outdoor grow in the northeast. Growing in a raised bed 4'×8'×18". This is a no till grow using alfalfa as mulch. Its gets very hot an humid here this time of year usually between 75-99% humidity all summer long. I've got 2 strains growing in the bed and they are both having the same issues.( girl scout cookies and amnesia kush).

    Over the past week this has crept up on my and my girls. I've been surfing the web trying to find out what this might be but I cant come up with a positive answer. I'm not sure if this is some kind of deficiency or of its bug related. Please of anybody could chime In with some advice I'd be thrilled.

    P.s. I have seen some slugs crawling around in my mulch dont know if they could have anything to do with this. I looked up what damage they do and it doesn't really look like what I got going on. 20190818_084952.jpg 20190818_084937.jpg 20190818_084932.jpg 20190818_084919.jpg 20190818_084913.jpg

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  2. Could be spider mites, check under the leaves with a scope.
     
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  3. I'm confused are you saying you think its white flies,cal mag, or nute burn?
     
  4. Gonna head out there in a but with scope and give her a look. Thanks
     
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  5. It’s thrips.
     
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  6. Not too late to use neem oil. In the future there are beneficial insects like lady bugs to handle insect populations.
     
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  7. I suspect there is more than one species of pest in your garden. The whitish speckles indicate mites or thrips. The chunks of leaves missing indicate something else. Slugs or maybe grasshoppers. Place a few small saucers near your plants full of beer and this should help take care of the slug population you've already noticed.
    RD
     
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    I stand corrected with a smack on the head from my babe .............Owww!

    Adult thrips are small, fast-moving insects, while young thrips look like tiny unmoving pale worms on the leaves. In fact, thrips can come in many forms, from wormy nymphs to dark or golden winged insects, depending on the stage of life and where you live.

    They pierce cannabis leaves with their mouths and suck out all the good stuff, leaving shiny (sometimes people think it looks slimy), silver or bronze spots wherever the leaves were bitten. The spots are bigger and more irregularly shaped than the bites left from spider mites. If it goes on too long the affected leaves may start dying
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    They can appear with or without wings, depending on their stage of life

    2.) Neem Oil
    Neem Oil will leave an unpleasant taste/smell on buds when used to treat flowering plants, so don’t let this stuff get near your buds! There’s also some evidence Neem oil may be harmful to humans so use with care! That being said, Neem oil is an all-natural remedy that is very effective against many different types of bugs and mold. You will need a mister (also called a “One-Hand Pressure Sprayer”) to spray all the leaves evenly since neem oil and water can separate easily.

    From Here: Thrips & Cannabis - How to Identify & Get Rid of It Quickly!
     
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  9. Whoever wrote that article has never dealt with thrips in real life. Western Flower Thrips are not affected by neem oil. Pretty sure they just laugh at it and keep doing what they do.

    Spinosad kills em dead with one or two foliars and is the only reason I keep some around. Essential oils sprayed often enough do a good job at keeping them knocked down. Having H.miles and nematodes in the soil helps control the population where the adults lay eggs.

    RD
     
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  10. fwiw i've never seen my preparations of neem kill anything except the eggs of insects. it's not a contact poison that's for sure. i had some kind of beetle gnawing on my tomato plants this year so i mixed 3 tbsp of neem seed in one pint of water, strained it, and spot treated just a small area of my plants and the beetles. phhhhhht! they were not bothered at all. zero. nada.

    maybe others use of neem has worked as a cide but in my experience it aint worth nothing except for eggs. it will NOT kill an adult insect of any kind that ive encountered. eggs YES. adults NEVER ime.

    idk why organic gardeners mess around with plant destroying insects. why? just kill the mf'ers dead and wash your plants with water if you dont like the smell of PYRETHRIN. if your state allows it.

    smdh :bang:
     
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  11. This guy nailed it. Use a product with some spinosad in it... should wipe them out.
     
  12. Spinosad works best against thrips.
     

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