Id laugh at the cops if they was at my house. I would invite them inside for coffee and a look at my plants all while wavin my Med Card in their face.
This is the freedom we should all enjoy. I am envious of course, but I am truly glad that there is some place where the draconian laws that harm innocent people have been subverted.
If he has the legal limit of plants, which I think is four.... They won't waste their resources. Even if its handed to them, the cost of processing the crime is just too high. Plus the police will not waste their time doing things out of the jurisdiction. Its some other guy's job now.
I agree. The problem is in my state and, im sure other medical marijuana states, is the people who abuse the system. It really sucks for the people who actually need the benefits cannabis provides. The nice thing about the state i live in is we can possess up to 15 plants But i do have to say i would just love to see straight legalization so we can stop pretending cannabis is a harmful "Substance"
Yeah, totally. I started using cannabis for recreational purposes when I was a teenager. There wasn't anything wrong with that either. Alcohol is way worse, as is evident by the number of cases of juvenile alcohol poisonings and car accidents versus the number of cannabis poisonings and lethal snack-attacks.
We can have 6 in flower and 12 in veg. And your right. No fed is gonna waste their time even if I had 50 plants. They want the big boys not us little guys following the state laws. I love Cali =-D
So, I'll be moving in down the street then. I agree with everything, except for the thing about state laws. Aren't the co-ops that get busted by the DEA compliant with state law?
i think legalisation would be good but i hope it stays a kind of indie type thing instead of big tobacco companies manufacturing and corrupting such a wonderful herb. I like the fact that growing herb is something that has its own community and there should be laws put in to protect that when its legalised.
This is the reason we can post in here and post pics and talk about it the way we do. Even a 'big grow' by this forum's standards isn't worth any of the fed's time. A friend of mine who worked at the IRS (apples and oranges I know but..) said that they won't even look at auditing someone if they can't make $500/hr off of it. I imagine if the DEA tripped over their feet and fell into your grow they'd still bust you but they aren't flying helicopters over our houses for half an ounce, two bongs and pack of zigzags.
Yeah... I doubt the helicopter would be useful in finding your pack of zig zags. I always lose mine, so I've thought about it. Air support isn't really an option.
You have to realize that some of the harder, and more addicting drugs, certainly do have potential to harm others emotionally, physically, and financially.
Certainly I agree. I'm not saying that meth-amphetamines or heroin or crack don't have the potential to do harm. I would love to discuss the social ramifications of drug addiction and weigh them against the costs of prohibition... but there is too much uncertainty in that subject for the sort of 'crunch' that I enjoy. Plus, it is much more political-minded of me (not to mention more in the spirit of Grass city!) to keep the discussion in the scope of cannabis products.
the only people pushing prop 19 ar the millionaires who want to capitalize on it. not because they care about it being legal. in my eyes it's better for the small guys to make some money than a few big guys. they want to go from millinaires to billionaires. the little guys use it daily, gas, groceries, etc. what's wrong with us making a few bucks here and there. i disagree. the big guys pushing prop 19 ar going to set up huge warehouse filled with equipment from china because they got it for a better price. so take all the money out of the little guys hands, put it into just a few guys, and they give it to China...and germany (for their mercedes and BMW's). pretty soon it's going to cost more money to grow it than to smoke it. just like tobacco. everyone smokes it but nobody grows it. what does or did big tobacoo do for the country? nothing, except import tobacco from other countries because it was cheaper. marijuana will be the same. vote no on prop 19 next time...or watch it all go to hell....
marijuana will be the same. vote no on prop 19 next time...or watch it all go to hell....[/QUOTE] ok man just keep it illegal...what about all the people that were rooting for CA to legalize it just so it would be decriminalized in other states. i would like to see it decriminalized...i could care less if they fully legalize i just want my right to do what i fucking want! i want my right to live without looking over my back...i want to live and smoke without worry about some fucking crooked cop cuffing me up for using my medication (Mj)
I didn't even bother responding to that guy, because he will not realize his ignorance. In fact, he probably won't ever read this thread again. You know what man? i love burgers. Mcdonalds sells burgers. But i never eat a burger at mcdonalds. I don't have to. i make my own, at home. They are to die for. The fact that Mcdonalds exists doesn't make my frying pan and burger meat any more expensive than I'm use to. Mcdonalds makes billions of dollars, in fact. I mean to ask... what will become more expensive when Cannabis is legalized? Lamps? Air-conditioning? Ducting? Nutrients? The seeds themselves? Fuck that, don't buy them then. Get some from you're friend. They will be legal, remember? I'd give cutting away like there is no tomorrow! This is a plant, and a plant that has a grass-roots movement behind it to boot. We currently illegally grow cannabis, and have gotten amazing at hiding it. Even if they could tax you for growing it, how will they find you if they couldn't before? The only person with something to lose is the guy growing ten or fifteen pounds per cycle, who makes his living selling those buds for recreational use. Who is gonna buy his weed when they can just grow it, or buy it at the store? Nobody. You're living isn't a fair one anyway. There are people on this planet who have to do a whole days hard labor for enough food to survive just to do another day's labor. I am a medical patient, biologist, cannabis aficionado and political theorist. I don't sell weed to make my living, but I still make a living in the marijuana community. You know how many other jobs will be created by legalizing? Product tester, anyone? How about cannabis flavorology? Professional Trimmer. Hash-expert. Cannabis Chemists. Crop specialists... Whatever you can think of. I can argue all day about why cannabis should be legal. I like to think its because I'm absolutely right, for once in my life.
I would like to chime in here about "making all drugs legal". I have personally seen first hand a mother dead in a crack house with her toddler running around, I have also had the experience of crystal meth what a downward spiral that one is. Charles Manson is also a very good example of what psychosis and LSD will do to someone. I also knew a chick who had a very promising future that had that taken away because she had like 50 hits of acid in her pocket that when she sweated had been absorbed by her skin, she's a "perma-trip" now. I also saw my best friend murdered over a key of cocaine, not to mention the many other hundreds or thousands that die from overdoses each year. I love marijuana, I have found in my personal experience that it is a very safe and enjoyable substance. I think that the goverment is afraid that if they legalize marijuana that right on the heels of that all the coke, heroin, and other "plant" based narcotics are going to be screaming to be legalized too. I think that if they were to word the law so that it would state that its not illegal if it requires no further chemical enhancement or refinement, I think that would work to make just the marijuana legal while still leaving the "killer" drugs like heroin, cocaine, methamphetmine, lsd, angeldust, and others that still require another chemical process to make them what they are illegal. Just my idea and 2 cents worth. I have never heard of marijuana killing anyone or causing anyone to ever go on a murder spree. I think the worst side effect I ever had was I slept through Thanksgiving supper.