California Legalizing Recreational Marijuana In 2016?

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by CaliSmokez, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. #1 CaliSmokez, Aug 13, 2016
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  2. #2 zmessengerz, Aug 13, 2016
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  3. Just get someone who is 21 to get it for you, no biggie, atleast you have the choice to legalise marijuana, be grateful, you would hate the laws we have in Aus.
     
  4. #4 zmessengerz, Aug 13, 2016
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  5. Yes 18 year olds can already get medical cards in California but they are somewhat pricey and you have to re-new them every 6-12 months depending on how much you payed. Having it recreational for 18+ would save a lot of money and time.
     
  6. #6 zmessengerz, Aug 13, 2016
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  7. It all depends on how much you have on your person. If you have a medical card you are allowed to carry as much as you see reasonable for your illness. I've been stopped by a cop before and he just asked to check my paperwork to make sure I was a legal medical card holder. If you don't have a medical card and you are in possession of marijuana then you could either get a small fine or jail time depending on how much you carry. If you have a gram or 2 you'll probably just get a ticket but if you have over a pound then they can charge you with intent to sell marijuana and take you to court/jail.


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  8. #8 zmessengerz, Aug 13, 2016
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  9. Is it really easy to get a MMJ card in CA?


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  10. They better legalize this year, along with Florida and other states. California is slacking in this fight.

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  11. Make sure you and everyone you know goes to the polls. They have some strong anti legalization efforts behind the scene that don't want to lose money from the "war on drugs". Personally I think it will pass but no way is it a slam dunk


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  12. #12 zmessengerz, Aug 29, 2016
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  13. Im not in cali but i have a couple friends there that would love it if if were legal. Wishing u guys the best of luck!
     
  14. Please people... before you vote for legalization in California (prop 64) read it!!!!! The little cutesy paragraph that they place on the voting card sounds all unicorns and rainbows... but if you actually read all 63 pages of this supposed "legalization" nightmare... You would be voting NO on Prop 64... No on AUMA! Don't let your first thought of "legal weed" blind you from what hurt this can actually do to the industry...

    I encourage all of the California Cannabis supporters to vote NO on prop 64!!!


    This legislation will ruin the cannabis industry as we know it, allowing only those with millions of dollars to invest to take part legally. None of the tax money will go to K-12 schools, state infrastructure, or the general fund and a huge portion of taxes will go to California Highway patrol, research on DUIs and detection technology, and driving limits, drug education, rehab programs... pretty much the major recipients of tax money will be the ones that have persecuted cannabis users for years... none of the fancy little summaries explain this...

    $2 million per year to the UC San Diego Center for Medical Cannabis Research to study medical marijuana.
    $10 million per year for 11 years for public California universities to research and evaluate the implementation and impact of Proposition 64. Researchers would make policy-change recommendations to the California Legislature and California Governor.
    $3 million annually for five years to the Department of the California Highway Patrol for developing protocols to determine whether a vehicle driver is impaired due to marijuana consumption.
    $10 million, increasing each year by $10 million until settling at $50 million in 2022, for grants to local health departments and community-based nonprofits supporting "job placement, mental health treatment, substance use disorder treatment, system navigation services, legal services to address barriers to reentry, and linkages to medical care for communities disproportionately affected by past federal and state drug policies."

    The remaining revenue would be distributed as follows:[1]

    60 percent for youth programs, including drug education, prevention, and treatment.
    20 percent to prevent and alleviate environmental damage from illegal marijuana producers.
    20 percent for programs designed to reduce driving under the influence of marijuana and a grant program designed to reduce negative impacts on health or safety resulting from the proposition.
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    Prop 64 gives too much power to local city and county governments, and about 95% of California cities have now banned any commercial cannabis business, dispensaries, deliveries, everything!

    Prop 64 will allow you to grow 6 plants, but also allows cities, such as San Clemente can require you to purchase a license to grow your 6 plants... ???what?? so we vote to make it legal, and now we have to pay our city, put our name on a list? who can access this information? your insurance, Child protective services, home loan financing companies, banks, jobs??? its not written into legislation on where that information goes if your required to get a city permit for your LEGAL 6 plants...

    Prop 64 will require medical users to go to a primary care physician to get their medical license, but there is no protection for the doctors... how many doctors will prescribe cannabis when they are required by law to only prescribe FDA approved medications... hmmm sounds like BS to me, how many doctors are really going to risk giving everything up to prescribe cannabis with no protections?

    Prop 64 will require medical patients to register with the state... so now your information is in a government database.. Yep, no 2nd amendment for you, also the legislation states that you will be notified if someone requests your MMJ information, but there is no provisions written that you can deny the request...

    With the passing of MMRSA early in 2016, and now MCRSA, approximately 95% of the California cities have banned all commercial cannabis business, and many cities, especially in socal have banned even medical growing. So now there are only about 10-15 cities out of 490 something cities in California allowing for commercial cultivation permits... and these cities only have small zones allowing it... therefore the little bit of real estate that is in these cities, in these zones has skyrocketed in price, I mean millions of dollars for an acre? so who can afford to even get into the business??? only millionaires, established brands, big corporate money...YUP!

    Prop 64 will allow cities and counties to BAN outdoor growing, forcing those with land to bring their grows indoors, not only cutting down on the size they can grow and limited by plant counts, but also will put even more stress on our electrical grid and raise the carbon footprint.

    Prop 64 does away with the ability to give promotional "free" products away... no more First time patient deals, no more going to trade shows or cannabis cups and getting free seeds, or products...

    Prop 64 offers no protection against CPS taking away your kids.

    Prop 64 in many ways stiffens the penalties, and still includes offenses that will result in heavy fines, drug programs and even prison time.

    Prop 64 now requires all "legal" cannabis businesses to obtain a license... but there is no mention of costs of these licenses yet... so what happens when they say, oh you want a 22,000 foot warehouse... well that will cost you $100,000 per year.. plus the tax per square foot of your canopy..

    Prop 64 also will control pricing to make sure that businesses can not undercut each other...which is great for large cultivation facilities who can operate and produce product at extremely cheap prices... but how with the small guys, or the medium size growers do? how will they profit trying to keep up with large scale production operating with much more profit?

    Prop 64 requires superior record keeping, seed to sale tracking, and also if you are a license holder, guess what, your 4th amendment also gets removed, as being a licensed cannabusiness allows for government inspections anytime without notice during normal business hours, records can be inspected, and pretty much if 1 record is misplaced or improperly logged, huge tens of thousands of dollars fines you will be slapped with...

    The cost of cannabis will go up, as not only a 15% state tax is slapped on, but almost $10 per oz on top of that, plus allows for local cities and counties to add their own tax... therefore that $60 1/8 now may cost $70-84 or more. Eventually the prices will come down slightly.. but who is going to buy cannabis legally if black market is cheaper... same thing that is going on in Colorado, and its hurting the legit businesses as they have to pay such high taxes, payrolls, leases..etc...

    Prop 64 limits personal grows to 6 plants per household...not per person..

    Prop 64 contradicts itself withing the text, in some places saying its legal to possess 8 grams of concentrate, and in other sections saying only 4 grams.

    Prop 64 will require anyone over 18 who is caught with over an ounce or 4 grams of concentrate, will receive either or both a $500 fine and/or up to 6 months in jail (this is legalization?)

    Prop 64 will include penalties of up to 6 months in jail, and/or $500 fine for growing over 6 plants.



    so please be informed before voting this November... unless you are a Millionaire or tax collector, this does more harm than help.
     

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