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Bye bye Alt Right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SmokinP, Aug 16, 2017.



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  2. I still don't think you understand the point he is making. He's not debating on the methods used against neo-nazis (although I take it he's for freedom of speech), but, rather, he's pointing out the glaring fact that the victims of ANTIFA's violence are very rarely fascists. Most of the conferences ANTIFA disrupt, often when force, are conservative rallies--not Nazi ones. And most of the people ANTIFA hurt are ordinary conservatives (or journalists and random by-standards), not Nazis. Hell, ANTIFA aren't even too hot on liberals. There's a slogan trending among far-left circles: "liberals get the bullet, too".

    Why would you defend these people? They are not a friend to liberal-minded people--they're Bolsheviks.
     
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  3. Because he is one. He claims Antifa in the U.S. are pussies compared to Europe, boasts when his comrades are "coming over" for action and claimed to be leaving for G20 recently to enjoy the "fun".
     
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  4. Going through a few of his other posts, I'm beginning to get that impression, too. Well, I hope he knows that during times of political unrest, far-leftist groups don't historically fair well in western countries. They often prove themselves to be disorganized and quick to adopt the strategies of their "evil" enemies. And even when they do succeed, the line needed to walk in order to prove "idealogical purity" is a tight one, and many of the post-revolutionaries find themselves in prison camps sooner or later.
     
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  5. I do as well, but to pretend that its roots are based in reality is a little off, right? The spirit of the holliday is one thing, the actual reason its marked on the calendar is another, imo.
     
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  6. #1066 Vicious, Sep 13, 2017
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    The militant leftist historically don't do well in their own countries. They're one of the first to be purged, sent to gulags despised as champagne socialist and "useful idiots" (Lenin's words).
     
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  7. spot on here. absolutely. To your above post, he for "freedom of speech **" notice the astrisk? He only likes the speech he agrees with and urges and supports scum in antifa for denying that freedom to people they deem unacceptable. He's posted propaganda posters on this site before and then actually said that I personally attacked him because I said that he posted said posters lmao. I think hes a troll who lost his way.
     
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  8. A little column A, a little column B.

    A. It is extremely problematic how ANTIFA and the far left uses the whole "we're bashing fascists and Nazis" but they don't see the issue of labeling people as such, and using said label to justify assaulting and attacking people simply because "they're fascists and Nazis."

    B. If you attack an actual Nazi simply because they were saying mean words (or "spouting bigotry" as SmokinP loves to always say) and not physically attacking anyone, I take a huge issue with that. Initiating violence against a person because "they're bigots" makes you a shitbag of a person. Nobody is denying that Nazis are shitbags. The problem many of us have with ANTIFA attacking Nazis is the fact that they're exercising their 1st amendment rights while not physically attacking anyone (most of the time).

    What I find most troubling about it all is labeling people as facists and Nazis and using that label as justification to physically attack people who are exercising their constitutional rights. ANTIFA isn't "anti-fascist"; they're fucking fascists. They can spout their bullshit propaganda all they want; their actions speak louder than words.

    ANTIFA is gonna push a little too hard one of these days and they're going to get fucked up. Then they'll really be crying like the little bitches that they are. Fuck them and fuck anyone and everyone that sympathizes with this cancerous movement.
     
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  9. I wouldn't even describe Antifa as "fascist" really. Fascist ideology relies on a strong central authority with sweeping power over individuals. These Antifa guys are more organized than most thugs, but they don't really have anything to replace the current power structure that they hate so much.

    They are most likely just a bunch of dim witted cowards that enjoy the power trip of engaging in mob violence. Thankfully people are getting sick of them and I'm guessing most cities will start preemptively dispersing masked mobs dressed in black.

    I fully support using the full arsenal of crowd control weapons on them. Shoot them with rubber bullets, throw tear gas and flash bangs at them, deploy the water cannons, etc.. I'm not violent, but when people insist on using force, using force back is the only thing to do.
     
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  10. Very well said. My exact sentiments as well.
     
  11. Literal Stalinists.

    People who heard about leftism and thought it was the most extreme rebellious thing so they go for the most try-hard bullshit they can think of, no matter how stupid or counter-productive.

    ANTIFA is pure cancer.
     
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  12. I fully understand what Twisted is saying, I just don't agree. Is it that shocking to have a different opinion and view?

    State loving liberals are just as guilty as their state Conservative cousins. Two sides of the same coin. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying anyone should be shot but I understand what some of those that fly the Antifa flag are saying here. There's very little difference between liberals and conservatives in the US. They disagree on distractions such as abortion, LGBTQ, guns, welfare etc... but when it comes to Merica raping and pillaging the rest of the world they're brothers in arms.

    As for alleged attacks on journalists, non Nazi rallies, etc it's hard to comment when you're not giving me any links/details. I've seen nothing of substance so far. You also need to remember that anyone can put on a balaclava and fly an Antifa flag. It's guerilla protesting, no organised structure or structure and done by the seat of the pants.
     
  13. Oh you guys are embarrassing me now with all these kind words, I guess I know now how the likes of Justin Bieber feels with all the adulation. :inlove:

    I guess I should say a few words of thanks. Firstly a big shout out to Karl, Ernesto, Fidel, Carlos, Bobby and Oscar. You guys inspired me in my youth many moons ago and without you I don't where I'd be. I also want to thank my family and cat. I'm going to go now before I well up. :barefoot:
     
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  14. your a cat person...of course.../s
     
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  15. Hey, I'm a cat person. Don't blame his failed perspectives on the master species.
     
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  16. I'm surprised Bin Laden and Adolf aren't on your list, I know how much you look up to them.
     
  17. I'm surprised you managed to string a sentence together.

    Where have I ever expressed support for Hitler or Bin Laden?
     
  18. I think I would mostly agree with your post but strongly agree with that last sentence (always gotta put the caveat that I'm a voluntarist and only speaking within our current, fucked up, paradigm). If these wastes of oxygen calling themselves antifa want to use violence to silence, non violent free speech then fuck them and use any and all means to wipe them out and restore peaceful protesting.
     
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  19. master species....are you saying cats are better than dogs?? omg dude the blasphemy!! It hurt my eyes to read that filth!! haha.
     
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  20. I like dogs very much. Just about all animals, but cats are my kings and queens.
     

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