Breaking: Obama Administration Collecting Phone Records Of Millions Daily

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  1. #82 yurigadaisukida, Jun 7, 2013
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    Communism is stateless, so no, it's not that.

    Secondly if you're talking about it being a form of socialism I'd say that the wealth redistribution isn't to the point now(and probably wouldn't be for world government if they're copying what we're doing) where you could call America socialist because comparatively other nations redistribute wealth at a larger percentage.

    Also subsidies and regulations while impacting the market and skewing it do not define it, so to call our system one of government controlled production would be hyperbole at best.
    </blockquote>This is all true. Bit for the consumer, the end result ends up thee same.

    Subsidized corn paid for by food stamps

    What you didn't realize is that in cronyism, Tue corpeeation control and thus are the government.

    So its a bastardizes form of socialism. Plutocracy own means.of production. Still same shit
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  2. Is anybody surprised by this?
     
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    NSA data-mining digs into networks beyond Verizon\nWASHINGTON - The National Security Agency's monitoring of Americans includes customer records from the three major phone networks as well as emails and Web searches, and the agency also has cataloged credit-card transactions, said people familiar with the agency's activities.
     
    The disclosure this week of an order by a secret U.S. court for Verizon Communications Inc.'s <span> VZ <span>+0.56% </span> </span>   phone records set off the latest public discussion of the program. But people familiar with the NSA's operations said the initiative also encompasses phone-call data from AT&T Inc. <span> T <span>-0.47% </span> </span>   and Sprint Nextel Corp. <span> S <span>+0.14% </span> </span> , records from Internet-service providers and purchase information from credit-card providers.
     
    Complete story
     
     
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    You're in denial? :confused_2:
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    :smoking:
     
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    Too bad your heart and mind is filled with hate and conjecture.
    Had you not plead guilty, you may have actually had a chance.
    "He has sentenced himself, Take him away then".
     
    Sad but true. The results of over paranoia, and the misguided fear of failure.
    The first big scare was with echelon.?   :smoke:
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
     
  5. #87 llllllllll, Jun 7, 2013
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    If its as easy as you guys in here try to make it out to be then go ahead and find out who I am.
    go ahead and post your results here for the whole community to see :)
     
  6. I don't have the government backed tech to do that, nor the training. I didn't make such a claim though, I was just teasing. I'm sure time would tell.
     
  7. If its as easy as you guys in here try to make it out to be then go ahead and find out who I am.
    go ahead and post your results here for the whole community to see :)

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    We don't work for the FBI. But its a fact. Its not hard at all for a knowlegable hacker to track you

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  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czp-l06y3EY&feature=player_embedded
     
     
  9. #92 llllllllll, Jun 8, 2013
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    We can do this for any president, btw.
     
    First dates when PRISM program began collecting information in accordance with companies
    Microsoft 2007,  
    Yahoo 2008,
    Google 2009,
    Facebook 2009.  
    Obama Elected - 2008.  So clearly it was being done before he was in office aswell.
     
  10. #93 ProvidencePlant, Jun 8, 2013
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    Uh it's pretty obvious that this shit has been happening since the signing of the Patriot Act, do you think I'm a Bush supporter or something? lol... I just like pointing out the patented presidential doublespeak.
     
  11. #94 llllllllll, Jun 8, 2013
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    Well it just seemed a bit.... pointless.  its like me pointing out the fact that you are a person, we all knew that already.  When are people going to stop pretending like the president is someone who can actually change something if he wanted to.  No. He cant so really people just use him to play the blame game because saying congress did it is too un-specific.  Americans like to jump on bandwagons, this years bandwagon is the obama hate train because they know so little they cant blame it on anyone but him.
     
  12. The Obama hate train, lol! I'm more on the lines of hate ever elected federal official bandwagon ;). You seem to like to make sweeping generalizations.
     
  13. #96 llllllllll, Jun 8, 2013
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    He says in the most un-specific manner possible. ;)
     
    I'm not gonna lie, I dont follow politics particularly close.  So yeah, i do tend to speak in generalizations because I dont know every detail about whats going on and I will never claim to.  Nor will I ever want to.  I distance myself from structured GOVT as much as possible.
     
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    The expansion of government -- with the decrease in civil liberties, which always goes hand-in-hand -- has been going on since the ink dried on the constitution.
     
  15. Uh really, I have to point this one out for you?
     
     
     
    I think the whole "stupid American" card is a little played out, buddy.
     
  16. The Obama hate train, lol! I'm more on the lines of hate ever elected federal official bandwagon ;). You seem to like to make sweeping generalizations.
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    I find that statement ironic

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  17. Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. Those who are okay with this kind of thing are not Americans. The Patriot Act is unpatriotic and a complete violation to our constitution. If the founding fathers were alive today they would probably be leading a revolution against the government. 
     

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