August 1, 2011: TV - Israel agrees to negotiate over pre-'67 lines

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Swills, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. TV Israel agrees to negotiate over pre-67 lines - Road Runner

    This is interesting. Peace talks are out and the borders are in the early stages of being looked at but that's because of this, right?


     
  2. HAH. Like America Gov would let that happen.

    Shit, they want peace! We must help with their peace... by bombing!
     
  3. I dunno if this would bring peace. There's alot of hurt and hate on both sides, but who knows
     
  4. It would be a step in the right directions but I am really skeptical that Israel would be serious about doing this. I think the Palestinians will be better off going the UN route even though thats not a great option either.
     
  5. This is interesting but only that until we get an official statement...

    The pressure is mounting on the Israeli government to show real resolve to bring an end to the conflict, that is a definite...
     
  6. As long as religion exist peace will never exist. Even the religious text concede as much.
     
  7. I wish Israel well, but I really don't have much confidence in peace over there. We'll see.
     
  8. From what I've heard, it's more an issue of differences between hardliners on both sides. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a growing pressure from the average citizens to stop this pointless conflict.
     
  9. It's retarded to see how they fight over imaginary land.

    THIS IS MY LAND THEREFORE THESE PEOPLE MUST OBEY ME.
    NO! THIS IS MY LAND, THEREFORE THESE PEOPLE MUST OBEY ME.
    NO
    YES
    NO
     
  10. So once religion is gone the world will be at peace? Thats just as bad as saying religion will bring peace.
     
  11. You may find it "bad" but its sadly true.


    Genesis 15: 18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: (the territory of) 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

    Genesis 35:10-12 God said to him, "Your name is Jacob, but you will no longer be called Jacob; your name will be Israel." So he named him Israel. And God said to him, "I am God Almighty; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will come from your body. The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I also give to you, and I will give this land to your descendants after you."

    Deuteronomy 34: 4 "This is the land of which I swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, 'I will give it to your offspring'"

    2 Chronicles 6:5-6 'Since the day that I brought My people from the land of Egypt, I did not choose a city out of all the tribes of Israel in which to build a house that My name might be there, nor did I choose any man for a leader over My people Israel; but I have chosen Jerusalem that My name might be there, and I have chosen David to be over My people Israel.'

    Numbers 34: 1 ADONAI told Moshe 2 to give this order to the people of Isra'el: "When you enter the land of Kena'an, it will become your land to pass on as an inheritance, the land of Kena'an as defined by these borders. 3 "Your southern portion will extend from the Tzin Desert close to the border of Edom. The eastern terminus of your southern border is at the end of the Dead Sea. 4 From there your border turns, goes south of the 'Akrabbim Ascent and passes on to Tzin. From there it goes south of Kadesh-Barnea, on to Hatzar-Adar, and on to 'Atzmon. 5 Then the border turns and goes from 'Atzmon to the Vadi of Egypt and along it to the Sea. 6 "Your western border will be the Great Sea. 7 "Your northern border will be as follows: from the Great Sea mark a line to Mount Hor, 8 and from Mount Hor mark a line to the entrance of Hamat. The border goes out to Tz'dad. 9 Then the border goes to Zifron and finally to Hatzar-'Einan; this is your northern border. 10 "For the eastern border mark your line from Hatzar-'Enan to Sh'fam. 11 Then the border goes down from Sh'fam to Rivlah, on the east side of 'Ayin, then down until it hits the slope east of Lake Kinneret. 12 From there it goes down the Yarden River till it flows into the Dead Sea. These will be the borders of your land." 13 Moshe gave this order to the people of Isra'el: "This is the land in which you will receive inheritances by lot, which ADONAI has ordered to give to the nine tribes and the half-tribe. 14 The tribe of the descendants of Re'uven have already received their land for inheritance according to their clans, and so have the descendants of Gad and the half-tribe of M'nasheh. 15 These two-and-a-half tribes have received their inheritance on this side of the Yarden, across from Yericho and eastward, toward the sunrise."



    Because of that garbage, they will always fight. The bible says its self that isreal will always be in conflict and at war.
     
  12. I hope it works out for them, it's been way too fuckin long
     
  13. How about oil?
     
  14. it aint my holy land hoss.

    if im gonna get my balls blown off for a holy land, my holy land is the red light district.

    anyone wanna pilgrimage with me?
     
  15. As long as a lot of things exists peace will never exist. I don't see your point here, you're talking about a sociological factor in humanity's ever-ongoing need to dominate one another, I'd think that if we addressed that issue instead of religion, a lot more would get done.

    I'm not even particularly religious, you just need to look at all the factors instead of just one particular hang-up you have.
     
  16. This is great news! I have a permanent mark on my forehead from facepalming over Bibi's piece of shit policies. Maybe it can start to heal.
     

  17. God knows.


    For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
    as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    1Th 5:3



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  18. Israel will never be at peace with the middle east....... these lines will not last long. As long as religion exist , peace will not exist. Simple concept.
     
  19. Israel's army is more than capable of defending 1967 lines, the officials who say otherwise are simply fear-mongering. After a treaty is signed, it will be up to the Palestinian security forces to keep their hardliners (and in effect the religion aspect you allude to) in check. If they cannot, a UN or NATO peacekeeping force will most likely be deployed.
     

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