Another Tincture Thread - Try it, You'll like it

Hello Sam and co!

I actually did get my 190 proof green dragon solvent, strained and reduced. I have been enjoying said green dragon since, i havent posted my results!

So, 50 g's trim, and 7 gs flower ground and decarbed. Then cooled on a sheet tray in the freezer before hitting a frozen jar. (Frozen) Everclear poured until jar was full (extra ounce or two, filled to bottom of the neck and that covered herb by 1/4 inch in a 1qt). Set up my double boiler (elec stove, hood fan on, strong mini fan blowing across towards ooen window) and reduced about 2 cups down to 4 fl oz.

God damn.

My brother was here recently and as he said, "God damn that creeps up on you!" I'll be playing with this to make edibles in the future. I will do my best to document any and all attempts.

My plan for 1st attempt:

I made some peach/habanero bbq sauce recently. Can i dissolve x amount of doses into a few tablespoons of sauce, then heat gently to a simmer (alcohol will evap 1st, a true simmer would ensure alcohol evap=thc/cbd transfer?). From what I've read, i think it should work? Water content of sauce is high, but also oil/fat incorporated? High water base leaves me skeptical without a prior transfer to another medium for some reason.

 

Mmmm bbq sauce!

Oh what a day. What a lovely day!

 

Guess who found some of that elusive dry ice! I wish I held on for just a few more days, because I got so much more kief from the dry ice run. I ran out of room on the scale after it reached 8.3 grams, so I'm gonna round it out to a nice 10 gram pile


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Now your cooking my style. LOL That looks great.
BNW

 

Lol yup! And I haven't even collected the stuff outta my 25 micron bag. I used it at first, but nothing was coming out so I took it off.
I can already tell these caps are gonna be much better


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I'm thinking 2.
I didn't let the last hash batch dry before using it, and I used less since water weight played a part


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Hey all, quick question with green dragon. Sorry if this has already been answered, I just haven't stumbled upon the answer with my searches. Since alcohol absorbs sublingually, will you get tipsy from the alcohol in the green dragon itself? Has anyone experienced this? I made my first tincture with 2:1 cbd:thc, mix of strains. I used about 6 drops of it and feel "buzzed" almost like I had a few beers.

 

I have only utilized 191 proof for GD and I have a really astute sensitivity to alcohol so I know the sensation you mention. I think while it may be felt it shouldn't pose any concern, the amount of alcohol is very minimal, even if I take 2ml, still a small portion of what would really cross the blood brain barrier. I did ask here and also my docs and if there is more or I missed something I am sure others will chime in!

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Well, as i mentioned, I have about 6 grams of food grade rosin. Long story short, I don't use filters for bud anymore.

First I broke off 2.13 grams worth. I usually use about 1 to 1 1/2 grams per ounce of ethanol. By my estimate, this should be close to reducing Sam's normal recipe by half.

I put it in a baby food jar my toaster oven at 240°F for about an hour, until the bubbling stopped. At first there were solvent bubbles (they look like soap bubbles) because I never purged the last of the ethanol. After a few minutes those stopped and the CO2 bubbles started up (they look like beer bubbles). Once that stopped, I gave it another 15 minutes or so and turned off the heat.

While it cooled, I gathered the rest of my supplies and smoked a joint of Zak Haze. I needed ethanol, vegetable glycerine, and peppermint extract (I didn't have any LorAnn on hand). I also used a syringe to measure and a one ounce spray bottle.

Next I measured out 1/2 oz. (15 ml) of ethanol and added it to the decarbed rosin. A bit of heat may be needed to get everything to dissolve. The Green Dragon was then transferred to the spray bottle and I had to try a spray on my tongue. The taste was pleasant, floral with a bit of bitterness (it's pretty green). I removed the sprayer and took another two or three sprays to clear it out.

Another 1/2 oz. of vegetable glycerine and 1/2 teaspoon (1.5 ml) of peppermint extract were added. This was shaken vigerously for a few minutes. I tried another spray on the tongue. Initially very minty like a breath spray, I may have used too much peppermint extract. The aftertaste was of the flowers with a sweetness to it, it was quite delicious.

I tried one more spray under the tongue. It stung a bit, but didn't leave my tongue feeling leathery like pure GD does. Potency is tough to judge right now. I've had about four or five sprays and a joint over the last two hours and am ready for bed. I'll try some in the morning on a clearer head and bioassay the potency.

 

Thank you Sam! I was a little worried because my oven decarb wasn't all that great. I have an electric oven that fluctuates all over the place so it was hard to do 240/40, good to know it worked. I did this one kind kind of randomly as I have three other strains of green dragon waiting on the natural decarb, should be ready to try in about a month!

 

Good to know! My major concern was that the alcohol has a much greater effect sublingually than digested, so maybe 6 drops sublingually would do something? Seems not to be the case though which is good. I might try just 6 drops of 151 sublingually and see if I feel anything.

 

Forgive my ignorance if it's a apparent. I will be harvesting my first plant this weekend and would like to know if I can decarb Fresh Harvest?

My goal is to blanch, d'carb and then make tincture.


2nd option is to refrigerate low and slow for 2 weeks then decarb.

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My spray bottle is Amber, so it's hard to tell how much clumping I got. There does look like some of the waxes stuck to the side of the bottle. I sometimes see that with just plaid GD. I should have winterized it, but I didn't have enough alcohol.

I did notice a distinct separation this morning. A quick shake mixes it back up easily. It has been in my pocket today and not separated. The volume of separation looks like the volume of the peppermint extract I added: a couple of ml at the top. The color of the separation is dark on top.

The potency seems pretty good. I took 4-5 sprays last night and over slept this morning. I took one spray sublingually this morning and it took the edge off. Another spray about 20 minutes later and I am comfortably medicated for work. I think I'll take one more and see where that takes me.

This spray came at a good time as I was just told I can't vape on campus anymore (it's a non-smoking campus). There is no way I am standing out in the desert sun (only 90°F today) with no shade to vape. The sublingual dosing burns a bit, but the glycerine coats it and stops that leathery, burnt feeling I get when I try GD sublingually.

I'm already thinking of ways to make it better next time. I would like to winterized the rosin, and use a better grade for a better flavor. I would like to try the more concentrated flavor oils, I have some lemon and a very lemony strain, Zak Haze, that would make a killer spray.bI would also like to try this with the P3 (natural decarbed 1:1 THC:CBD) tincture as a "rescue" med. The only problem is I think I would have to keep it refrigerated to keep it inactive.

 

I wouldn't do it. If you have to run fresh material, do a water hash extraction and make the tincture with that. The alcohol will pull a lot of the water soluble (usually nasty tasting) stuff and wet material has lots of water. You spent months growing the plant, wait a week or two for the trim to dry and cure a bit first.