Another BS Claim Debuked

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buzzer777, Sep 3, 2017.

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  1. No surprise at all.

    Was just a delusional man ranting.
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  2. "As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any US citizen."

    Donno about that line.
    That Obama administration spied on everyone.
    US citizens, the associated press, NY times, Angela Merkel, among others.
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  3. Heck, we all know that they ALL do what ever they want..The idea is not to get caught;)
    The issue here is that with NO PROOF, This jerk leveled unsubstantiated claims that were too easy to rebuke..Obama is/was absolutely one nasty person..
    He was just smart enough to keep his powder dry. (as in sneaky)

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  4. Yeah that and having the media on his side helped.
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  5. its well known the information that the government collected on him was because of a section 702 FISA warrant. Deemed "incidental" gathering as they were "obviously" not monitoring trump directly, it was someone else who had the warrant and he was just "caught up" in it. But you know, semantics.
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  6. so try to look at it like this. For real, clear your mind of all the preconceived notions...and follow me for just a second here...
    you just ran a big campaign, and won the presidency in a highly volatile election. You won with everyone saying you didn't stand a chance. You walk into the white house and start getting your security briefings and you are seeing info about you or your people on those reports and ask questions. Whats the only way that the government would know that he was at a certain place with certain people, and have actual conversations recorded? To be listening of course. So he sends the tweet, as ill advised at it was. Shocking discovery I would say. Walking into the white house and seeing they had you and your family followed and surveilled.
    How would you feel about it? You would feel like your privacy had been invaded right? They didn't have a warrant on trump himself, it was supposedly someone else, so how do they have this info?
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  7. Maybe, but I am not a Paranoid Schizo either;)
  8. Doesn't the president run the NSA?

    And they wiretap everybody
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  9. me neither, but if you try to put yourself in his shoes and just consider the other side you could maybe see how and why someone who is an outsider would think and say something like that right?
  10. errr, sound familiar and of course there is much more:

    Paranoid Symptoms

    "Delusions are beliefs that seem real to you, even when there's strong evidence they aren't. Paranoid delusions, also called delusions of persecution, are rooted in fear and anxiety. They might make you feel like:

    • Delusions. Delusions are strongly-held beliefs that are untrue. ...
    • Hallucinations. Hallucinations are sensations of things that you perceive to be real that actually don't exist. ...
    • Disorganized speech. If you have schizophrenia, you may also have disorganized speech. ...
    • Disorganized behavior. ...
    • Negative symptoms. ..."
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  11. Lame wouldnt let me use the emoji lol
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  12. I get it, too afraid to humanize the guy. dont really get it considering its in all of our best interest that he excels at his job. I get disagreeing on policies. shit I wish we could/would have policy debates on here but it doesn't happen often.
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  13. You avoided the post completely as usual..
    Paranoid people are dangerous..This guy fits all the criteria to be certified..
    Won't take too much longer for the nutcase to completely crack..

    AND you never replied to my post about having done business with him..wonder why! LMAO
  14. are you a psychologist? I doubt it. You can't make a medical judgment on someone without actually speaking to a person. Whom they are portayed as on tv and by a completely hostile media is usually quite a bit different then how they are in real life. I didn't "ignore" the post "as usual". I know your not a doctor, because if you were you would know its morally wrong for you to make that judgment on someone who you haven't evaluated for yourself.
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  15. I am not a Dr and never claimed to be..symptoms are even obvious to MOST lay people..
    And your answer to my doing business with him post?....Thinking hard are we?? LOL
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  16. there isn't a post about doing business with him here? what are you talking about?
  17. Yes, there are TWO..Can't locate them but it involved me negioting with him during his A.C. NJ casino Days..I ran a division of a large slot machine Company (Bally Mfg. Corp) a long time ago..He couldn't get the price/terms he wanted so he threatened to have me fired (sound familiar?) and blame his subordinates when the deal fell thru (again, sound familiar)..Waste of time to try to locate them , since you manage to dodge the facts (sound familiar again..LOL) when confronted with them.
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