The only way to believe their is afterlife is to believe in religion, because if not for religion the thought of afterlife would not have exsisted, from that we can deduce our morals and our daily functioning is all tied / traced to religion, So if you are not following a religion you do not exsist in the afterlife futhermore you should have no reason to continue living because everything that you understand was influenced by religion to prosper. From all this we can deduce that it would be illogical for human survival to not follow a religion. All in all if you don't believe in religion you don't believe in humanity or yourself.
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the only way science even existed was because of religion? the pursuit of knowledge is promoted in the quaran, but the worship of it is a different story. how can something that humans theorized or created be as efficient than what our creator made?
What that first line a question or a statement? If it's a statement it's false. The pursuit of knowledge was promoted long before the Quran or the Bible were written, so that statement means nothing. And there are millions of things theorized and created by man that are more efficient than what you see as a creation by "our creator." In fact, if we truly have a creator, he/she/it is quite inept.
You said: "So if you are not following a religion you do not exsist in the afterlife" How does that make sense? Suppose I am wrong and there is an afterlife, I would then be existing in the afterlife. Maybe when you die you get a choice of afterlife or zapped out of existence forever. You said: "All in all if you don't believe in religion you don't believe in humanity or yourself." This is quite absurd. Plenty of atheists believe in themselves and humanity. If someone doesn't believe in themselves, then they have low self-esteem. Considering many people believe in God, and many people have low self-esteem, we can see that there are people who believe in God and also have low self-esteem. If you were trolling, then well-played.
Why should you get a choice in afterlife if you didnt belive in it in the first place? If you dont belive in God's promised afterlife what is stopping you from commiting murders today? usually its morals correct? well b4 religion was introduced people were commiting sins without "punishment" if you dont believe in gods afterlife, than you dont believe in punishment for wrong doings after you die. How can you believe in another humans theory rather than your creators theory? The people that taught you right and wrong were your parents, teachers , etc, and the people that taught them, and the people that taught them etc etc, in the begging wrong and right was taught to human. The reason their is stupid people refusing to believe in god is because of capitalisim, facisim, socialisim, A MAN SHOULD HAVE NO KING ONLY A GOD. People who claim to not believe in god but believe in something else are arrogant to the fact that their theory has no support or even logical excistence to be true, meaning the more logical decision for Survival is to choose a religion or god.
If god created us, anything we create is created by him. the question is do you believe in afterlife?
You're making so much sense. Go ahead, stop thinking and start praying, it worked out well for you so far.
The reasons some humans believe in religeon is because there is still a part of your brain that miss's the alpha-male of the pack, it all goes back to when we were apes and there was always a dominant male, someone to look up to and someone to protect you. Give it a few thousand years and this part if the brain will have shrunk and gone.
Why not? Just because I don't believe something doesn't mean I can't have a choice if I'm wrong. The fact that I like people and wouldn't want to harm anyone. I guess your reason would be "because God said not to." So it appears you don't actually care for human beings, you just do whatever God says, despite the fact that it was man who wrote the holy books, and you just believe it was God. Usually people get punished in this life for things they do. Why punish people twice now and in the afterlife? You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with punishment. You can't be happy unless someone else is being punished. That's a shame. That just sounds like the rant of a paranoid man wearing a tinfoil hat. Well, plenty of atheists are surviving without choosing a religion or a God. So that kind of flushes that whole point down the toilet. Good thing too. It was stinking up the room.
You will get no choice if you are wrong, god stated that every human will be educated by him, and every human will have a chance during their mortal life to believe in him, living is a privillage, you are supposed to be successful to be happy to live your life to the fullest. Society is trapping you captialisim, governments, sublinal control, Open your eyes theirs black helicopters in the sky, Ignorance is a feat of the wicked and is practiced, I love human beings and I would like them all to continue to flourish and prosper but their is only one way to do that.
IF god created us. And which god would that be? Do you realize how many gods have been worshipped and are still being worshipped by mankind? Your claims to your god are no more valid than claims made by people over hundreds of thousands of years about their own gods. And even if a god or gods did create us, we have surpassed this god in creation. We can conceive animals, humans, etc.. and even grow them to full term outside the female body. We can create computers that can store more information and work faster than the human brain. We can genetically engineer food and animals to create new varieties that have better chances at survival. We can manipulate evolution. The greatest feat of the gods is creating humans, an animal that shares one pipe for breathing and eating leading to countless choking deaths over millions of years. If a god exists and created everything, my statement that IT is inept still stands. The question about afterlife: well I don't know if there is one or not, and neither do you or anyone else. However, this is about belief and I do not believe there is any afterlife. There is absolutely no evidence that would even begin to make me speculate that there is.
Which god are you talking about again? I assume you are talking about the Jewish god, Yahweh. I don't recall exactly where Yahweh said all humans will be educated about HIM. Please share that scripture with us. I do know it's a lie, since we know that billions of humans have died without ever hearing about the Jewish god.
I will get no choice if I am wrong? Well, that's not very nice. If that's true, then I can't do anything about it. I'd be at the mercy of a pwerful dictator. I personally would give people a choice even if they were wrong if it was up to me, but that's just me. lol cmon man. Be serious. Atheists existed before black helicopters. How much tinfoil do you use to make your hat? I think the aliens from Mars can still read your thoughts.
Buh bahmmmm An athiest also has eternal life. Eternity in Jahannam is what it is called...... taste the torment of the fire!!!!!
That's awesome, I'll get to hang with all the cool Jinns. LOL It cracks me up how Islam loves to toot it's own horn, yet is nothing but a copycat religion.
@[member="illuminateed"] Many people have no need of something others believe in but that doesn't mean that in their own way they're not living every bit a life that your god would approve of. You and your religion are full of judgments against others. Simply look to yourself. Do what you feel is right and allow others to do the same. Just because what they do may not seem like it is acceptable doesn't mean it isn't. All things reveal god, and god can be found in all things.
Islam is from The God of 'Jesus', The God of Moses, of Abraham (peace be unto them). Its a chain of prophethood, ending with Holy Prophet Muhammad salallahu aleihi wasalam. So its only logical that it contains elements of what was preached by The Prophets (pbut) before the last and final Beloved Muhammad saws. Religion is not tangible and therefore cannot toot its own horn. Its Muslims who toot the horn of Islam, as other people toot whatever horns they may have. You are tooting some kind of horn too now brother