OK all, sorry for the delay here in this nutrient side-by-side testing.. 3 weeks before my last "test scrog" was complete, hurricane Irene come up the seaboard and about wiped us off the face to the plant... Everything that was not on the third floor was under water.. Thank God all the new equipment for this side-by-side testing was in my office on the third floor.. After the water came the MOLD in the walls, basement, it was everywhere... Long story short, we moved back home and bought a fixer upper in the northern Mich.. (where I should have kept my ass LONG ago!) What I'm putting together: Advanced Nutrients Vs. General Hydroponics - Side-By-Side Grow.. This grow is from the average Job Blow which does not have the best equipment, or a lab to grow within, nor any no gas chronographs, and of course no overly paid lab rats.. How I'm going to do this: We're going to do this side-by-side grow as if we have never grown in hydroponics before and follow the manufacturer's suggestions regarding what to mix, what our total ppm should be, and what pH they suggest our solution... The reason for this test and what I want to see (personally): From the average grower just starting out, does one nutrient produce more and or better than the next, simply by following their product suggestions, and maintaining the product at the suggested levels.. MUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT!: First off I want to THANK a couple people, because if not for them, this would have taken a few more months to get off the ground... I first want to thank TIHSPEED, because without him I would have been forced to use bag seed.. What little seeds I did have were in the basement in the deep freezer (everything inside was out).. So hurricane Irene ate all my seeds... Then after the cost of the move and trying to make this house ready to handle the added elec loads... I'm fuckin BROKE and was just going to use some bag seed... lol Thanks to Tihspeed being a STAND UP bro and flipping me few seeds.. We're going to do some Sensi Star.. Then I want to THANK The Hydro Source! (little story why)... I have bought a lot from this company in the past, they ALWAYS have done me right in customer support, and have great prices.. Trying to see how much funds I needed to get the rest of the equipment to start this side-by-side grow, I contacted the owner (Keith) and said I was a past customer, just went through hurricane Irene, moved up to Mich. bla, bla, bla... Told him, it's going to take me a couple months to get the funds up, so I can order what I'm calling him about, and just trying to get the figures together of how much I will need to raise... Asked if there were any way to catch some kind of discount or up and coming deals... The owner said he sees the town I was in got hit hard by the hurricane (he knew from shipping addr.) and anyways, just a down to earth MF... So goes on and says he is just going to donate what I need to get back setup for the patients.. Said that he would not want to wait a couple months if he were a patient in Mich with no dispensaries (Michigan shut down ALL dispensaries)...... So what can I say?? Keith (the owner of The Hydro Source) is ANOTHER STAND UP bro!! IMHO, companies that recognize they are a part of the community and give back to the community should be supported... And if you find a better price on their Nutrient Bundles (w/shipping), I want to know about it!! On to the Show: Mother Chamber: 39" x 39" x 7'6" Tent (saved from flood/mold free) 1 - 600w MH (ballast was a backup I had with the others, saved the cooltube from the flood, the power went out before the water reached the light and so it didn't break the glass or bulb) 2 - 3-1/2gal Ebb&Grow sites with 10" net pot lids, filled with hydroton.. (again works off gravity and super simple) 1 - 15gal reservoir (with two 12" air stones running in it)... 1 - 396gal Ecoplus pump... 1 - C.A.P TMP-2 for temp control I'll have to find a fan somewhere.. Cloner is the Lets Build a Clone Machine *Step by Step* - by Rumpleforeskin I can never remember the measurements and have always used his when ever building an ez-cloner.. TOP SHELF DIY GUIDE! (finishing this now).. Flowering Chambers and Battle Zones: Single chamber split into 2 parts built within upstairs bedroom. 3' x 8' x 8' DIY Tent using Panda Plastic (super simple to make).. 3 - 600w Radon Digital Switchable Ballasts.. 3 - 6" HydroLux Cool Hoods 1 - Can Fan 6 in High Output 440 CFM Inline for the lights (I hope that's enough, if not I can bring in cooler air through the lamps). 1 - C.A.P AIR-3DN 1 - Active Air Co2 System 1 - 16" Ecoplus wall mount oscillating fan (hope to center mount it and get a full swing to cover the whole garden) Each 3' x 5' SCRoG area within the chamber will have: 1 - DIY R-DWC 2 Site system (2 buckets/sites/plants under 3x5 screen.) 2 - Sensi Star clones.. The rdwc is based off of Budslingers Recirculating bubble Buckets MORE TOP SHELF DIY GUIDES! But I'm going to use 6" net pot bucket lids, then use a 185gph pump, tee the 1/2" feed lines, and both buckets will have a dedicated 3/4" back to the reservoir (header tank). So each 3'x5' scrog area will have 2 buckets and 2 plants. We're going veg. them 25 days, and flip over to HPS and 12/12. Last week both will be done how the manufacture suggests to "final flush".. Sensi Star is a 56-63 day, so around the last 2-3 days light will be dropped to 14/10.. THE CATCH: Both nutrient's growth and any or all collected data will be supplied simply as A and B. You will not know which "grow area" is being feed by which nutrient. Only in the end when we're done, will I say which was which was A and which was B. I'm starting moms within the next few days... Then I'm thinking at least 30 days after and in the meantime I'm going to be doing the chamber build, and then testing/fine tuning... Mom Tent is almost setup... Put together a small control panel to keep the ballasts out of the chamber.. Other than adding that wood back I had in there, and then adding the ducting for the light and tent, but its pretty much finished: More to come over the next week!!