At the risk of doing 4 posts in a row in one thread and distracting from points I just made: You've been told since Kindergarten not to call the muslim barbarians what they are, barbarians. And why are you not to call the barbarians barbarians? Because when you call them barbarians they act like barbarians. SO, they are not barbarians, because they act like barbarians? War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Got it. I'm clearly the one refusing to think critically here.
lol this thread is turning into another thread. Drontek called ALL latin people gangbangers and that we all bang ms-13, mucho serotes 13, If that's not propaganda, then I don't know what is. we all run up on people and jack em, and we ALL wanna forcefully take american land back. he posted that gangland video where it made absolutely no sense to post it because it had nothing to do with the subject, la raza. the people, the community. Are Crips the representivtives for the black commmunity?? you have your mind mixed up about alot of shit you do not know about, with a whole bunch of other shit that you're tangling in with other shit that has nothing to do with the shit you posted in the 1st place. it's all shit. smelly smelly shit.
I've never said any such a stupid thing and never would. Actually, it did. The documentary talks about connections between MS13 and groups like Aztlán. What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand? You're making shit up in your head man. I've never even suggested any of this.
Ok and what does aztlan have to do with "La Raza", "La Raza" simply means all hard-working, good people with brown skin, it is NOT an organization, it is not a phrase created by NCLR , It just means the people, I just checked the nclr page on wiki, it is an organization, but you're confused when you hear people say Viva la Raza in general, that's just saying long live the people, not long live this organization. when some people hear that they get confused and concerned. That shouldnt be the case for anyone who hears that, it's just a phrase used among people of latin decent that signifies pride of the hard working good people in the community. and by the looks of it, personally to me, that nclr organization looks legit, I would have to say the nclr and aztlan are completely seperate organizations and have no connection. If you have something to boycott against or make threads in which concern you, I would say attack atzlan, not "La Raza" or "NCLR" that at least would be alot more understandable.
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I give up on you kiddo, you are a child and fail to grow up to listen to reason from a person of the community, you fail to realize that that when a person say's la raza, it is in the sense of pride of our people, but not to belittle other people, you are just trying to belittle me by comparing the community to aryans. If you want to label my community racist go ahead, but you are an idiot, You fear what you don't understand and you're fear will once day turn into hate. if it hasn't already. VIVA LA RAZA pinche guey. "sir elliot goes to google" wait it's below so i'll translate for you Guey means castrated bull. When someone calls you GUEY, he/she is calling you ball-less. That is why you do not refer to a female as guey. It does not mean DUDE. Although a lot of Mexicans now use the word as an everyday word people perceive as it being a slang for dude. No seas guey, No mames guey. Pinche Guey Ese pinche Guey se la quito. "That ball-less dick took her away from me". isn't spanish a weird language?
So what is acceptable for a white person to say to rep that they are white? Cause White power is immediately labelled as racist
because it was created by a nazi, maybe white pride is a better term to use? "White power" is a white nationalist political slogan and a name for the associated ideology. It was coined by American Nazi Party leader George Lincoln Rockwell, who used the term in a debate with Stokely Carmichael of the Black Panther Party, after Carmichael issued a call for "Black Power". "White Power" became the name of the American Nazi Party's newspaper, and the title of a book by Rockwell. Many white nationalists, including white supremacists and certain neo-Nazis, have since used the phrase White Power to describe their political goal.
[quote name='newskoolgrower']... stuff... QUOTE] have you noticed that you begin your responses to criticism with personal attacks on the person making the response? Instead of responding to their argument, you attack them. What does that say about the strength of the points you are making, that you must attack the people that disagree with you? They are children, nazis, racists, need to grow up, etc. What about the point they've made?
Some would argue the Black Panthers were a racist group to. Even if they weren't I bet at some point some racist black man has said black power and some racist mexican has said brown power. White power is just as racist as black or brown or yellow power or red power or whatever. Who fucking cares what color your skin. Your not better because of it. It's the person inside who can accualy accomplish something.
Why the enormous hang up with this 'MSM'? With any media? I really don't get it, the media is biased - we know this, so what?
[quote name='newskoolgrower'] sorry I was "Attacking you personally", but When I hear something like like Raza being compared to Aryans, It honestly feels like a personal attack. please listen to reason from a person of the latin community, realize that that when a person say's viva la raza, it is in the sense of pride of our people, but NEVER to belittle other people or to make latin people look more superior than any other colored skin person unless it's from an racist person. when you compare La raza to aryans it is disrespectfull, ARYANS BELIEVE THAT THE WHITE RACE IS THE ONLY RACE THAT DESERVES TO EXIST, WHILE La Raza is not even a gang, but a phrase that has been around since the 30's. I won't disagree that there are people of latin decent who are racist that use the phrase in a racist sense, with a racial insult after it. but comparing La raza to aryans seems a bit over the line and preposterous. Just because a few latinos are racist doesn't justify calling the whole community racist. is that more "OFFICIAL"
You're just misunderstanding the word Aryan. It really means peace and cultural unity and is in support of diversity.
Why are you asking this question of us, but not the white house? Your concern should be Obama's non-stop drum beat against media that is tough on him, not internet posters. Do you not understand that the MSM hatred now is a direct response to their behavior over the last 8 years? How are you missing the glaring inconsistencies and hypocrisy?
What I think is that you should come here and enjoy the tranquility of not worrying about these ridiculous news stations. We have the ABC, a government news station - it has no real bias either way. You'd probably consider it slightly liberal, but every point that they make for something they counteract with the oppositions sentiments - they don't conceal both sides of the story. It's very straight forward, two reporters sit at a desk in front of a screen with pictures and videos and they say "In todays news, this happened..." You see what I mean? How can I possibly be hot and bothered about the media when it's very professionally and objectively conducted? There's no fucking around, there's no propoganda, it's all told with the sterility of a quarantine chamber. That's not to say the things they say in the news are true, the government and indeed ANY government can manipulate that. But it's presented with no bias, it's just fucking news. It sounds to me like you need to fire a torpedo into your television my friend
It's hard to notice bias when it confirms yours. Wikipedia claims 25% of Australian journalists see ABC as the most partisan news outlet after 'News Limited'. I think MSM is different in the states. It mostly seems like we have commentators that pose questions and then have supposed 'experts' answer them. Or just commentators that make wild accusations. We have local news channels that sound like what you described, but MSM is typically referring to the national channels which don't provide traditional news casting.
I agree, and as I said in my previous post it is possible for la raza to be used in a racist sentence by a racist, but that is not what good people are about. I also agree that no one is better because the color of their skin, whether it be brown, black, white, yellow, blue, orange. imo, it's mostly propaganda by foolish hatefull people, as well as propaganda in the media that separates people of different cultures and colors. It causes words to be said, and from words comes actions that come from fueled hate. Really? that's quite fascinating, I guess I was wrong about you. so I take it that you are a proud member of the Aryan brotherhood?
Those 25% belong to the radical conservatives, the radical socialists and the troublemakers But, in all seriousness, there's no real 'cause' to advocate here. Over there, your media might advocate the Democrats etc. Labour and Liberal are actually pretty much the exact fucking same, and the media doesn't glamourise or demonise either because they're so goddam similar. And the people who support both are very similar too, they're both very moderate parties. And these'experts' sound terrible man, they take up the majority of your nightly 7.30 news? Sounds like straight up opportunity for sensationalism and pulpit preaching, I can almost sympathise with Drone's pyschotic ravings if the mental image my stoned brain gets from this scenario is anything like the 'news' that you poor bastards live with... Why bother watching it then? Why wouldn't you just watch the local news or something and not subject yourself to something that pisses you off tremendously?