A common misconception

This isn't "news" per se, but I think it was most appropriate to post this thread here, especially since it is relevant to most of you.

This is my first thread and I've signed up today, but I have done a lot of lurking on grasscity in the past, and I have noticed one thing here (and nearly every other place that discusses weed for that matter) that kind of bugs me: all of this whining about tar. Tar this, tar that, how much tar is joints vs. cigs? blah blah blah. First of all, tar is not the only carcinogen found in smoke, nor is it the real problem.

Erowid Psychoactive Vaults (this article cites some sources, if you want to check it for authenticity).

This doesn't mean that tar isn't bad for you of course, but it's obviously not what is causing the cancer. If it were, then it wouldn't make any sense that marijuana smokers have a far lower rate of cancer than cigarette smokers, even though it is pretty much common knowledge at this point that weed contains just as much, if not more tar than cigs.

By the way, this is also a good reason why marijuana should not be legalized. I'd rather go to prison or pay a fine than die, personally.

 

I'm not even going to address this or read it properly, because you're clearly a fuckwit that jumps to conclusions and doesn't actually pay attention to what anybody says.

As for the rest of you, what I meant is that my primary fear of weed being legalized is that the government will turn it into the next tobacco, basically. If they require tobacco companies to use the radioactive fertilizer, then they might very well do the same with bud, in addition to the actual companies cutting it with various additives. If it's legal, it will be harder to grow yourself, too.

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You guys do realize that my original post is IN FAVOR of weed and AGAINST tobacco, yes? Read a little more carefully before you start angrily ranting about stupid bullshit.

 

A valid point, but what in the hell does it have to do with what I'm talking about? Are all of you seriously this burnt out?

 

lol, you're not actually refuting, and probably not understand what I'm even talking about. You're just raging because I said that I think weed shouldn't be legalized. Doesn't mean I don't want people smoking it!

I'm going to condense my original post so your hideously short attention span can follow along, and then I want you to tell me exactly which part of it is twisting the stick that's shoved so far up your asshole, kay?

Lots of stoners bitch about tar in tobacco and cigarettes, or they claim that cannabis has more tar in it and is therefore more likely to cause cancer, or visa versa.

The primary cancer causing agent in tobacco is radioactivity, not tar. 90% of all cigarette related lung cancer is caused by radioactivity, which comes from certain elements in the fertilizer that tobacco companies are required by law to use.

This largely explains why weed causes little to no cancer compared to cigarettes.

I do not want marijuana to be legal, because there is a fair chance that weed will go down the same road as tobacco, and I highly doubt they will let you grow your own, not because I think nobody should smoke it.

 

It's weird that you would say that, and immediately turn around and do the exact same thing in the next paragraph. Because the smell is like, thing that cops look for, right? There are dozens of signs for illegal grows that cops look for besides the smell. Additionally, it would be far easier for cops to figure out who should be growing and who shouldn't, and it makes it easier to keep track of what bud goes where.

For the record, I am fully aware than the issue is much more complicated than I'm making it, but the ENTIRE point of it is that tar isn't that big of a deal, and there's no reason for there to be so much hype about it, that's it. Then you immediately responded with some fuming rant about how I'm a fascist and I believe in nanny government and I think weed will kill you. What the fuck are you smoking man? At least I payed attention to you. And you still haven't answered my question either, who on earth are you so tweaked? It's gotta be an unrelated personal problem that you're just taking out on me. It's either that, or you're way less smart than you present yourself to be, and you're just another one of those goons who's sole knowledge of weed comes from some article you read somewhere, and are way too eager to fling that knowledge in anybody's face who disagrees with you, like a monkey throwing around its own shit.

 

I'm starting to wonder what the point even is of continuing this conversation with you, other than making you look stupid for my own amusement. I don't think I could pick out a single one of your posts without finding at least one instance of you putting words into my mouth. Even if you've brought up a few moderately interesting points (none of which seem to -really- be directed at any of the things I've actually said), you've completely discredited yourself by fighting me almost entirely with vague declarations about how wrong I am, and straw-man arguments. If I were a third party reading this conversation, I'd think that you at the very least have a severe anger problem, and are probably completely flippin' delusional.

Edit: I love the hideously cliche quote under your avatar, by the way. Based on that, and our entire conversation so far, you're starting to sound like a textbook liberal college dropout. I bet you were on the front lines at the Occupy protests. You guys did a real good job taking up space.

 

Oh certainly, I wasn't speaking of all death related to smoking, just cancer. I never said tar was harmless or good for you either. To be honest, I'm not really sticking up for my original point anymore, I'm really just goading this dude on because I can tell he's genuinely angry at me for some reason.