A better explanation of my point of view since everyone keeps asking.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BlazeLE, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. #41 BlazeLE, Mar 12, 2012
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    People killed by Capitalism

    Mussolini's Ethiopia 700,000
    Franco Regime 300,000
    NATO Intervention in Libya 15,000
    Chiang Kai Shek regime 7,000,000
    Benito Mussolini regime 300,000
    Post-Soviet Capitalism 15,000,000
    Somali Child Famine Deaths 29,000
    NATO Intervention in Libya 15,000
    Second Boer War 75,000
    Japanese Massacre of Singapore 100,000
    Burma-Siam Railroad Construction 116,000
    Japanese Germ Warfare in China 200,000
    Rebelling Shia Killed by Saddam 300,000
    US Bombing of Yugoslavia 300,000
    US Bombing Iraq Water Supply '91 500,000
    US Civil War 700,000
    Iraq-Iran War 1,000,000
    US sanctions on Iraq 1,000,000
    US Backed Suharto 1,200,000
    Irish Potato Famine 1,500,000
    Japanese Democides 5,964,000
    Famine of 1932-33 7,000,000
    Bengal Famine of 1943 10,000,000
    Famine in British India 30,000,000
    US Intervention in the Congo 5,000,000
    Congo 1886-1908 8,000,000
    Hurricane Katrina 1,836
    Indonesian Anti-Com. Purge 1,000,000
    Stateless Capitalist Somalia 1,000,000
    Industrial Revolution USA 100,000
    1898 US War vs Philippine 3,000,000
    Palestinians Killed by Israel 826,626
    Guatemala 300,000
    Nanking Massacre 300,000
    Iraq (Selling Gas to Saddam) 400,000
    Iraq (Desert Storm) 500,000
    Invasion of the Philippines 650,000
    Feudal Russia 1,066,000
    Afghanistan 1,200,000
    Iraq 1,300,000
    Khmer Rouge 2,035,000
    South African Apartheid 3,500,000
    Nazi Holocaust 12,000,000
    US Aggression on Latin America 6,000,000
    Japanese Imperialism 6,000,000
    Vietnam War - including Cambodia & Laos 10,000,000
    Korean War 10,000,000
    British Occupation of India 20,000,000
    Great Depression (America alone) 12,000,000
    World War One 16,500,000
    World War Two 60,000,000
    Native American Genocide 95,000,000
    Capitalist Policy in India 1947 - 1990 120,000,000
    African Slave Trade 150,000,000
    US Backed murder of Tamils 30,000
    Spanish-American War 100,000
    Spanish Civil War 400,000
    Union Carbide Bophal Disaster 15,000
    Massacre of Paris Commune 20,000
    First Indochina 1946-1954 1,500,000
    Belgian Congo Colonization 1,000,000
    French Madagascar 80,000
    Nigerian Civil War 1,000,000
    Rwandan Genocide 1,000,000
    US Made Famine Bangladesh 100,000
    Children Died fr Hunger '09 5,256,000
    Children Died fr Hunger '10 6,000,000
    Children Killed by Hunger Since 9/11 235,000,000
    Children Killed by Hunger during the 1990s 100,000,000
    Ciggarette Related Deaths Worldwide (1960 - 2011) 306,000,000

    Total Killed by Capitalism:
    1,603,016,267
    this number is growing every day.

    also lol at calling him a racist. he went to africa to try and help free the people in the congo.
     
  2. #42 buller, Mar 12, 2012
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    30000-100000 annually in usa alone from crisco aka partially hydrogenated vege oil. (its that new "food" from 1896; use it to preserve whale oil, or make money by calling it "i can't believe its not butter")
    that's more ignorance than capitalism, granted--like cigerettes--you have the freedom for someone else to make your shit for u, u don't even have to know whats in it

    now u know better james, and pandas came before china went full on capitalist
     
  3. Lol. No wars have ever been caused by capitalism. Holy stretching batman!
     
  4. granted, they are fought to preserve and further capitalistic institutions
     
  5. #45 BlazeLE, Mar 12, 2012
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0]laugh harder - YouTube[/ame]

    workers being worked to death, starvation, oil wars. i could go on.

    edit: products such as cigarettes that are pretty much designed to kill you.
     

  6. They are mainly fought to increase power. Wars are a natural outgrowth of the state's desire of ever increasing power. To blame it on "capitalism" is hyperbole and a gross over generalization. Also completely false.
     
  7. [quote name='"buller"']granted, they are fought to preserve and further capitalistic institutions[/quote]

    That would be fascistic.
     
  8. #48 BlazeLE, Mar 12, 2012
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    yet when you say it about communism its all fine and dandy? gotta love double standards. id also like to mention there has never been a communist society other than pre-stalin soviet union and that only failed due to the capitalist blockades set up that wouldn't allow food or medicine into the soviet union. those blockades make up a decent portion of the deaths you are attributing to communism btw.

    edit: and all of the anti-communist propaganda stems from that as well. people starving and dying were due to the blockades.
     
  9. I never said communism started any wars. I don't believe any intellectual philosophies are the cause of any wars (but statism is the enabler). Not modern wars at least. They are just a natural consequence of a human desire for power over others, and as a way to keep the State financed. If it can be boiled down to a single cause I would say it's government, specifically a big overarching government. The thing is though, in a free market capitalistic society the government would have to be very small in size. That is a necessity because big government and free markets are mutually exclusive. They can't simultaneously exist. So in actuality free market capitalism is the antitode to war.

    As a free market proponent I'm against all forms of blockades, sanctions, embargoes, etc. As Ron Paul puts it, they are an act of war. They aren't inherit in capitalism.
     
  10. wealth cannot be power?
    i just can't wrap my head around that one.
    im mean if there were laws that the wealthy had to obey as well, i could see it.
    but wouldn't that be big evil government?
     
  11. It doesn't take a big government to uphold the rule of law.
     
  12. oh, well we agree then i think
     
  13. This is so ridiculous its not even funny. Mussolini was a fascist which is a lot closer to Socialism than Capitalism. Children died from hunger due to capitalism LMFAO! So I'm sure no children died from hunger when the Soviet Union was around right. I'm also sure cigarettes were never distributed in Soviet Russia. Blaming the holocaust on capitalism when the perpetrators were the National Socialist German Workers Party LMFAO! Your post is absolutely insane.
     

  14. lol. thats all i have to say to your response. maybe you should do some reading. the nazi party called themselves socialist to try and get the socialist support... it didnt work. also lol at saying fascism is a socialist thing.
     

  15. Don't confuse social marxism and economic socialism.

    Fascism has a mixed economy with heavy central planning.
     
  16. Talking points
    LUSO: Socialism and Fascism

     
  17. the future(plenty of food and basic necessities for all)--bartering will rise
    I want a boat, but I can't build one,
    No one is going take their time to build me a boat unless they get something of equal value for their labour. The builder (like everyone in the future)wants for nothing, the notion of amassing wealth doesn't occur to him. He will build a boat only when he wants something he cannot produce. Money would have no intrinsic value in an art driven world such as this. Dare I say capitalism would not exist here?
     
  18. #58 Mirvs, Mar 12, 2012
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Great Potato Famine huh?

    All because of voluntary trade?


    There is so much dumb in this thread. Too bad I don't have a youtube video to share with you so you could understand how much there is.

    oh wait, I do. Here:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgQ--L-2cY]dumb ass compilation - YouTube[/ame]
     
  19. #59 buller, Mar 12, 2012
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    a sucker is a capitalist best friend

    all of those things wrong? idk, or care. capitalism will die when everyone no longer wants for basic necessities, art will flourish, and we will all share it
     
  20. #60 Deleted member 472633, Mar 12, 2012
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    Lol resources are becoming more scarce as the population increases not more plentiful. The most efficient economic system will be needed for a long time. And economic liberty will flourish once the government gets out of the picture. Statism is a cancer it will eventually kill the host but good thing is the economic death won't be permanent, we will find our way again.

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