31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

Discussion in 'General' started by meddlehaze, Aug 6, 2011.


  1. There was a american soldier who chopped a afghan civvilians head off with a sword he bought there or something, Were both ruthless were killing them to and in afgan and iraq we have killed more of them than they have killed of us.



    Casualties in Afghanistan:
    Afghan troops killed [1]\t8,587\t\t
    Afghan troops seriously injured [2]\t\t25,761\t
    Afghan civilians killed [3]\t8,813\t\t
    Afghan civilians seriously injured [4]\t\t15,863\t
    U.S. troops killed [5]\t1,140\t\t
    U.S. troops seriously injured [6]\t\t3,420\t
    Other coalition troops killed [7]\t772\t\t
    Other coalition troops seriously injured [8]\t\t2,316\t
    Contractors killed [9]\t298\t\t
    Contractors seriously injured [10]\t\t2,428\t
    Journalists killed [11]\t 19\t\t
    Journalists seriously injured [12]\t\t unknown\t
    Total killed in Afghanistan\t19,629\t\t
    Total injured in Afghanistan\t\t48,644\t



    # Casualties in Iraq:
    Iraqi troops killed [13]\t30,000\t\t
    Iraqi troops seriously injured [14]\t\t90,000\t
    Iraqi civilians killed [15]\t864,531\t\t
    Iraqi civilians seriously injured [16]\t\t1,556,156\t
    U.S. troops killed [17]\t4,414\t\t
    U.S. troops seriously injured [18]\t\t 31,882\t
    Other coalition troops killed [19]\t 318\t\t
    Other coalition troops seriously injured [20]\t\t 2,296\t
    Contractors killed [21]\t 933\t\t
    Contractors seriously injured [22]\t\t 10,569\t
    Journalists killed [23]\t 142\t\t
    Journalists seriously injured [24]\t\t unknown\t
    Total killed in Iraq\t900,338\t\t
    Total injured in Iraq\t\t1,690,903\t

    Yeh i think were both ruthless.

     
  2. Such a pointless war, all the men, women and children who have died in this , not only the soldiers but the hundreds of thousands of civilians. Pointless loss of life.
     
  3. What do you mean?

    I probably should lol. Got any good resources?
    Yeah, I was under that impression. Can you enlighten me?
     
  4. #24 mushroomsatsuji, Aug 6, 2011
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    You don't think it could be because they don't want America meddling in their affairs so now they are fighting back at the ones who are trying to take them over and force them to change their lifestyle, culture, and religion?
     
  5. I was talking about how they treat their own people. You gotta expect deaths in war.
     
  6. #26 mushroomsatsuji, Aug 6, 2011
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    freedoms are one of the biggest casualties of this war.
     
  7. #27 Lenny., Aug 6, 2011
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    I think it really sucks that a lot of people don't know this:

    U.S. trucking contracts funded Taliban, source says - CNN

    Afghanistan: US trucking contracts funded Taliban - World News - IBNLive

    Military panel: U.S. funded Taliban | Concord Monitor

    How Washington Funded the Taliban | Ted Galen Carpenter | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

    What changed about the Taliban in 2001 when we decided they were evil? Nothing! They were still the exact same group before and after 9/11. Same with Saddam Hussein, same dude with the same policies.
     
  8. #28 mushroomsatsuji, Aug 6, 2011
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    You want people who are ruthless in peacetime? Try the cartels. They aren't even across the world from us. They operating in our own country. Why don't we go after them?
     
  9. That's certainly a possibility.

    Can you link me to some sources that provide information on how we are trying to take them over and force them to change their lifestyle, culture, and religion? Or is that just an assumption based upon our current actions and nation's general mindset?
     

  10. No i know we lock people up in prisons and other things we raid there houses and shoot there dogs/family were both pretty brutal, i was just sharing the statistics and not directly at you i think everyone on this thread should know this :)
     
  11. Because there's no benefit for us?
     

  12. :laughing:
     
  13. #33 mushroomsatsuji, Aug 6, 2011
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    I'm on the app ATM. But let me ask you. Where do you see the middle east in 10-20 years. Or say after we "win" the war. All resistance to the US has been squashed. what do those nations look like now?
     
  14. Yes, its true that we can expect deaths in war. But a totally unjust war ? Then no.
    It annoys me that so many people listen to anything they hear on tv, countries the US and UK fund and support have so many human rights violations. But we won't touch them.
    Why? Because its not in our interest.
    I can't say anything better than this man, have a read.


    The war against us all
    This war in Iraq isn't the end; it's the beginning of Wars to come
    all around the world at the whim of the Neo-Cons in the White House
    This is the Bush Doctrine come to life; War, war and more war!
    War brought to you by the big corporate-masters who run the show
    This isn't just a War on Iraqis or Afghanis or Arabs, or even Muslims
    It is ultimately a War on us all!
    That's because the billions and billions that are being spent on this War
    the cost of tanks, rocketry, bullets and yes even salaries
    for the 125,000 plus troops, is money that will never be spent on;
    education, on healthcare, on the reconstruction of crumbling public housing
    or to train and place the millions of workers
    who have lost manufacturing jobs in the past three years alone
    The War in Iraq is in reality; a war against the nations' workers and the poor
    who are getting less and less
    while the big Defense industries and making a killing – literally!
    What's next Iran, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela?
    We've already seen the corporate media
    play megaphone to the White House, to build and promote a War based on lies
    War is utilized by the imperialists first and foremost, to crush internal enemies
    We're seeing the truth of its insight
    when we see the sad state of American education
    the rush of seniors to buy affordable medications from the Canadians
    because American drugs are just too expensive
    the threat of privatization of Social Security
    and the wave of repression that comes with an increasing Militarized Police;
    this is a War on all of us
    And the struggle against War is really a struggle for a better life
    for the millions of folks who are in need here in this country!
    The fight against the War is really to fight for your own interest
    not the false interests of the Defense Industry
    or the corporate media or the White House
    Down with the Wars for empire!

    From Death row this is Mumia Abu Jamal...
     
  15. #35 mushroomsatsuji, Aug 6, 2011
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    It's not a benefit to get rid of the importers of the most dangerous drugs on the streets, to dismantle the major street gangs like the zetas and others who carry out cartel business on our streets?

    I thought we would want to get rid of those who attack America. The Taliban take down two buildings and we send our entire military after them, but these groups continue to kill American citizens and we turn a blind eye to it?
     
  16. For sure. I would love to be educated on the matter, honestly. I couldn't tell you man. What do you think?

    Not as much as "bragging rights" for winning a war man. I don't agree with this perspective of benefits, but it wouldn't make our country look any more powerful. I think it'd be VERY beneficial.

    Yeah it's a bit outrageous, I think there are other reasons we got involved besides 9/11. Whether they are valid reasons or not is debatable. I think our priorities are founded upon power and greed, not civilization and advancement.

    Your posts makes me think you are viewing mine as support for the war which I definitely do not support. I'm just tryin to be real
     
  17. Really? How you worded the op really sounded like you supported it. My mistake.

    But I do believe refocusing our resources on the cartels will be better for us as a nation.

    And how do I view the middle east after all this? It's going to be renamed the Coca-Cola county in McDonaldland
     

  18. It will also have no Oil. it's will mysterously vanish and so will the soldiers :D
     
  19. No not at all. Just a misunderstanding on both of our parts. I support the troops not the war. I'm not brave enough to sacrifice my life for something I don't even agree with.

    I agree as those are direct problems and have effects on our economies.

    haha ahh so governed or somewhat controlled by the US, you believe?
     

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