Monster cropping first attempt

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by Snowskate328, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. This is my first attempt at cloning let alone cloning an already flowering plant. The reason I am trying to monster crop is I am being givin some plants tonight that need a new home and I would like to try to keep the genetics and to see if I can do this monster cropping. So if it doesn't work out then it's not a big deal. I have twenty three,lost one, rockwool cubes that have been soaking in water with ph of 6 for twenty four hours. I will also be using clonex rooting compound. I will be posting more pics once the plants arrive later tonight I can't wait.!!! Any comments questions or help or ideas are welcome!!

    Here is the info I am using for monster cropping..


    Monster Cropping

    This method of training involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.

    Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.

    You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also takes clones at a later stage with the same results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use.

    In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost flower alone.



    It will take several weeks for the clone to root, some never do, so it is best that you take a great number of clones at the same time in order to ensure that at least one makes it on to the next stage. It might be a good idea to place the clones inside a humidity dome, which can be bought at gardening stores or custom built for your specific needs. The high humidity inside the dome will make sure that the plants do not dry out and die. Ventilate the dome every day just to make sure that the plants don't get attacked by mold.

    Keep in mind however that the most important thing when it comes to cloning is to provide the fresh cuttings with plenty of oxygen and that is why the propagation bubbler is so effective compared to other methods.



    The clones might be a sorry sight at first but as soon as they root, they will also revert back into the vegetative stage and start growing again. Once the clones have rooted properly and started growing again, they will put out single unserrated leaves at first but the normal leafs are soon to follow. It might be a good idea to apply some training at this stage, tying down some of the tops will encourage even more branching. You can also provide some heat underneath the clones as this will speed up the rooting process considerably.

    When the plant starts growing again, the incredible branching power of the flowering clone becomes apparent.



    As you can see, this plant has grown into a real monster, and all this without ever topping the plant. That's the beauty of this technique; you can forget all about topping and FIM'ing since the flowering clone will sprout all these new branches all by itself.

    This plant is now perfectly suited for a SCROG or perhaps even a SOG grow. This one plant can easily fill up an entire Scrog net in no time. Several of these plants grown in SOG will definitely give you a grand harvest.

    There are other benefits from using this technique; it also removes the need for keeping mother plants. When the newly re-vegged plant is flowered, it can also provide more clones for a perpetual harvest. Recycling at its best. This might be of interest to those who need to keep down their number of plants.

    Needless to say, this method is highly effective thanks to the heavy branching that occurs after a flowering clone is re-vegged. With further training and some patience, you will get some real monster plants and thereby also a monster harvest.
     

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  2. #2 josephspare21, Jul 1, 2011
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    awesome dude hope they turn out huge keep us all updated i wanna follow this grow for sure :hello:.

    both current and older trainwreck grows in my sig are vegged back from flower seems to work well my current trainwreck is so fucken bushy.
     
  3. Well the plants came and so did the light and ballast. Sadly the plants looked a little sad one was fucked cut off over eighty percent of it due to it was dead. Going to be re veging them out some before getting the clones so idk if it will still monster crop or not any one know? If the answer in no then I'm gonna veg out then reflower for awhile then take clones... Not sure what to do any idea?
     
  4. Here are the ladies under 1000 watt hps light
     

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  5. #5 Snowskate328, Jul 1, 2011
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    Thanks so much man I got some other stuff growing too also in my sig. And damn your plants look good under those cfls
     
  6. I grow this way every time and it works well I get 6-9 colas and 6ft tall and big buds but I wait till they are almost ready to harvest and then reveg them into monsters but everyone has there own way of doing this
     
  7. Hi mate just read your comment about monster cropping. Ive got some clones taken from flowering plants and they have all got good root, but nothing is happening to the clone itself. How long does it take for it to start doing something their about 2 weeks old. Please help
    Cheers Salsyid
     
  8. @ Matt when u say reveg you take a female in flower till ripe harvest the flowers then put it back on a 18-24 hr lights on. If I'm correct about what your doing post a pic and let Mr see a reveg girl.
     
  9. 3 weeks ago I was nipping off some of the growth that comes back after lollipoping on some Northern Lights about 3 weeks into flowering and my mate put one of the cuttings into a peat plug and back into the tent on a 12/12 for a couple of days, pulled it out the tent to make space for somethin and forgot to put it back in the tent ,so it was left in the room in the dark for 3 days(not in water)and when he noticed it ,it had roots,roots and more roots no rooting compound or hormones .I took it back to my veg room and it has gone mental, half the plant is still throwing out pistules on the new growth and boy does it stink .the other half is still throwing out the single leaves but at an alarming rate some of which are curled but otherwise healthy.peat plug straight into a 12 litre pot and within a week roots were appearing at the drainage holes.i have found if you want to kickstart a seedling and promote very vigourous veg growth throw some cheap lawn feed in your water 1g per litre IMAG0268.jpg IMAG0271.jpg  
     
  10. Something doesn't look right....

    I can't put my finger on it... Something looks mutated...

    Not knocking anything at all, the plants look weird to me for some reason...
     
  11. the cutting/clone/potential waste of budding had two leaves at the bud site and one lower down .it was a bit of regrowth after i lollipoped a plant grown from seed .and i agree she is a mutant i have maybe shocked her one time too many.i am just hoping she reverts to full veg and all those single leaved branches become fruitful .
     
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