Hello all! I am new to Grass City and I thought I would post what I am doing these days and see if anyone agrees, disagrees, and might help cut some time off a first timers learning curve. A little about me: I have been growing for 10 years. At the height of my endeavors I ran a 2,800 Square foot warehouse with a bloom room consisting of 40 1,000w HPS lights for 2 years. the whole operation was aeroponic. This was in So. California. I got out before any problems, Bought 5 acres in Oregon and follow every state law to a T now! Now I bloom 6 plants every 9 weeks and it pays for its self and gives me and my girlfriend plenty of personal smoke. I average one and a half pounds of cured bud from 6 plants under a 1,000w HPS light and use no chemical nutes. I'll say that one more time because it bares repeating.... I average one and a half pounds of cured bud from 6 plants under a 1,000w HPS light and use no chemical nutes. I am very humble and am learning new things every day, with that said if you are speaking to me rudely and think you know everything...reread the above statement. Can you do that? I am a very happy person and love questions. I will get pictures up when I figure out how. I'm a cave man when it comes to computers. Below is what i'm doing now. This is my personal recipe. If you repost it give me credit. Enjoy!!!!!! King of the HILL Organic Guano Tea Recipe Week 1-3 Clone/ Seedling brew Week 4-6 Veg 1 Brew Week 7-9 Veg 2 Brew Week 10-14 Bloom 1 Brew Week 15-18 Bloom 2 Brew Water with Brew once a week. Give fresh non-chlorinated water as needed in between brew. Clone/Seedling Brew (less than 4 weeks old): 1/2 Cup of Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost 2 1/2 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses 1 tsp Liquid Kelp Extract Mix in 2 1/2 gallons of (treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours. Make sure to strain well through cheesecloth if using airoponic rootmisting. Once a week until roots are over 1inch. Then same mix plus 2 TBS Mycorrhizae Fungus product (Oregonism XL). Veg 1 Brew 1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost 1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano (Nitrogen rich guano) 1/2 cup Alfalfa meal 5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses 5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours. For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50. For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 2-3 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE) Veg 2 Brew 1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost 1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano (Nitrogen rich guano) 1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**) 1/2 cup Alfalfa meal 5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses 5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract 3-5 TBS Concentrated Fish emulsions Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours. For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50. For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 2-3 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE) Bloom 1 Brew 1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost 1/3 cup Jamaican Bat Guano (Phosphorus rich guano) 1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**) 1/2 cup Alfalfa meal 5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses 5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours. For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50. For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 3-4 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE) Bloom 2 Brew 1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost 2/3 cup Indonesian Bat Guano (Phosphorus rich guano) 2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**) 1/2 cup Alfalfa meal 5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses 5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours. For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50. DO NOT FOLIAR FEED AFTER WEEK 4 OF BLOOM You can add a biological stimulator to any brew to give a jump start to the process. I LOVE OREGONISM XL by Root Organics. Follow directions on container. FLUSHING DIRECTIONS: hahahahahahahahahahahah Continue until the day you Harvest. Don't Panic, Its Organic! Curing Directions: Cut all leaves from buds, leaving only the flower. Leave the buds on the branch. Hang branches for 3-4 days on a line in a dark room at 70-75 degrees with average humidity (50-60rh) Clip buds from branch and into cardboard box. Make sure they are one layer thin on the bottom of box not stacked. Leave them in the box, with the top on, for 3-4 days, giving them a good shake once a day. Put buds in an air tight glass jar (Ikea) for 3-4 days. *** Very important to shake up and BURP(open top to release gasses) ONCE A DAY***** After that it should be ready. If anyone tells you it will take less than 10 days to properly cure nugs, forget anything else they have ever told you. The nugs should barely smell until you twist-break them open, then it should be DANK! Other directions: Brew in 5 gallon home depot bucket outside, for smell and overflow reasons. Use as many airstones as possible to bubble your brew. You can't add too much dissolved Oxygen. 18-24 hours later the Sweet molasses smell will turn to a rich earthy smell. IT IS DONE! Let sit for 20 minutes after you remove the airstones to allow sediment to settle to bottom. Pour 2.5 gallons into new bucket to 50/50 with fresh water for soil drench. Use tea with-in 6 hours of airstone removal at max. Right away is best. Rinse out bucket sludge into outside garden as soon as possible. If it dries i'll bet you a dollar you'll buy a new bucket. Use Root misting airoponic 5g bucket for Clones with 24/7 6500k florescent light. Move from clone bucket to veg. 1 when roots are 4 to 8 inches. If possible, re pot using a slightly bigger pot between veg 1 ( 1 gallon)and veg 2 (3 gallon). Sprinkle 1 tsp. of Mycorrhizae Fungus product on root ball during trans potting. Veg stage should be to desired size. You should top veg plants often until they are about 18-24 inches tall and have 12-15 tops (ready for colas) Use 6500k florescent light 18 hours on, 6 hours off. Temperature should be 72-78 degrees. Bloom should be 8-10 weeks based on strain of plant. Use 1000watt High Pressure Sodium lights 12 hours on 12 hours off. Temperature should be 70-76 degrees. I like to lower temp in Bloom 2 to 65-72 degrees to bring out the purple. (just a lack of molybdenum due to cold) But helps with sales later. First 2 weeks in bloom the plants will stretch, wait to re pot until week 3 so the new soil feeds flowering not stretching. Use 7.5 -10 gallon pot depending on size. Lollie pop the plants week 3 right after re potting. This means cutting all the bottom leaves and node sites off so there are 18 inches from top to bottom node site. From dirt to lowest node site/ leaf should look like sticks. Also cutting off all small offshoots is helpful to clean up middle. Remember 1000w HPS only penetrates 18 inches. I can tell you the best and easiest way to get all this online if you want. Happy growing -Spaceship Farmer
Wow! Thanks for the recipe man. This is great. I was thinking of a similar type of nutrient for my foray into organic-hydro. Have you ever tried using the mexican bat guano through bloom, or perhaps just less of it? Recent evidence seems to show that phosphorus is highly overused as a bloom booster, and that plants continue to use high levels of nitrogen (albeit in a slightly less ratio compared to other nutes in flowering) all the way through bloom. Have you encountered any clogging issues in aero misters? Or is the cheesecloth filtering all that is needed? How do you think this would work for a DWC or recirculating type of system, and what root zone temps do you think would be suitable in these systems using these nutes? My understanding is that beneficial microbes from the organics esp. humus/earthworm castings will prevent root rot to some degree Do you use any type of innoculants for beneficial organisms? Mycorhizo/Tricodermia? The use of these things with organics may increase your yield even farther. I have heard of good results with the great white innoculant.
looks great! just a tip for those using sprayers- get a small hot tea steeper thingy from a coffee/ tea shop and poke a hole in it. insert tubing and no more clogs, strains floating stuffs and holes should be big enough to not harm microbes. i will be referencing your recipes. thanks.
+rep. outstanding recipe. brewing a batch of my own today! god any photos of finished product to show us what to look forward to?
[quote name='SpaceshipFarmer'] I will get pictures up when I figure out how. I'm a cave man when it comes to computers. sorry didnt see that!
Hi I was wondering if anyone has tried this brew. Also is veg 1 and veg 2 brew just meant for half the grown season outdoor first formula and second half of growing season veg 2 brew. Also using a kelp meal should be fine?
ive tried a modified version, basically the same. good results, around a pound from 7 plants under 1000 watts hps. my orange velvet x purple urkle cross didnt respond well to me pruning it that late into flowering tho. many bananas. im gonna get all the pruning done in veg see if that makes a difference.
hey man cool recipe but i was wondering if its safe to use the foliar spray like a day or 2 after i use the soil drench or is it just one or the other? also can i do a tea with just mexican bat guano, kelp, fishbone meal, compost and molasses?
Yes an old thread I know. But I was curious. I personally dont like to transplant anything that is flowering. Spaceshipfarmer, do you have good luck doing this? I've never tried. Always felt after a transplant there is always a slight plant shock till she gets used to the new growing medium. How does everyone feel about this?
Thanks for posting this! Your recipes are the closest to by old recipes I've found. It's been about 7 years since my last grow, and I can't find my old grow journals. I'll definitely be using a variation of them for my next fertility. I'm trying autoflowers for the first time, and just corrected some nutrient lock from WAY overfeeding. I caught it quickly, and they still look great in their 6th week in a SCROG setup. Shit"s changed a lot in the last decade! Varieties, lights, autos, resources, etc...! I had a couple questions. - have you ever uh used nutritional yeast as a B vitamin and nutrient supplement in your brews? - ever use sweet potato syrup (or "nectar") along with molasses in your brews? It's a good source of carbs and 12% potassium. - Banana peel and eggshell "tonic". Ever tried it? I simmer 6 dried ground eggshells and 2 banana peels in 1qt water for a bit. Strain and add to a 5 gallon brew.