TRUE aeroponics !!!

Also nutrient companies make you use more than u have too

 

The basic nute requirements for HPA is < 300 ppms in veg and less than 800 ppms in full bloom.

A little goes a long, long way

 

I too have tried the full gamut of hydro/aero and there are certainly plenty of differences, especially in regards to hp aero. I'm not going to stand on a soap box and proclaim it to be the end all be all method of growing, however it does provide significant advantages, especially when applied to scale.

All my systems are running DTW at no more than 550 ppm (0.5 conversion). The benefits of running DTW are obvious but few hydro/aero methods allow you to run DTW without wasting tremendous amounts of water/nutes. Even fewer allow you to get away with running such low nute strengths (the savings are substantial, one gallon of solution costs me around a nickel.) When considering both of those factors, I can confidently say only hp aero allows you to do both. The money I saved on just nutes/water over other hydro sets more than paid for the hp aero set after just one grow.

Another distinct advantage I've noticed is the ability to run my plants at a much higher temp. 32+ Celsius is no big deal. I start running into trouble around 36+ Celsius.

 

very impressive, you are using scrog on 8 plants?

 

Can you recommend some products, like a pump and nozzles that would atomize the water and nutrients. Maybe a DIY, because i was about to make a aeroponic system, but from your thread I found out they were not real aeroponic systems. I really want to build one because I know the results will be crazy

 

will this pump work???

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CALI: Check out Reptile Basics. I got my Aquatec 8900 pump (~$90), tubing, quick connect/disconnect fittings, a variety of mist heads- single, double and quad. A double is fine for a 10G tote.

I use a Sentinel timer, but it is not accurate at one second. I get good results with two seconds on-~ 2 minutes off. The amount of time varies with root age and size.

HTH

 

Dunny Said: I too have tried the full gamut of hydro/aero and there are certainly plenty of differences, especially in regards to hp aero. I'm not going to stand on a soap box and proclaim it to be the end all be all method of growing, however it does provide significant advantages, especially when applied to scale.

Very True, but it's not for blokes with regular jobs. I am in/out of my grow many times a day.

Depending on how warm it is here (most of the year), I replace jugs of frozen water in the rez 2-6 times a day. I know I could buy a chiller, but that's more floor space and more electricity.

Other duties:

Check positioning of mist heads... make sure roots are not too wet or too dry, adjust on/off time accordingly.

Adjust lights as they grow 2-3" a day

Monitor ppms/pH of rez. Depending on number of plants and root sizes, between evaporation (runs up ppms) and consumption you can go through 1 G of nutes a day.

Since I am a stay at home mom anyway (lol), I further push the envelop by foliar feed several times a day.

 

Your expertise and experience are needed badly by me and many others. Thank god for u sir

 

How much more does aero yield compared to other hydro methods. Is growth also faster in a aero system?

 

HPA is cost effective. It eliminates soil mixes, hydroton, large grow medium like rockwool or S2G and considerably fewer nutrients to grow big, fat nuggz.

HPA Yield. Consider that HPA can provide the ideal growing method. How much bigger, faster, better is going to depend on the grower's ability to maintain proper lighting, relative humidity, root environment, nutrient pH /ppms, and feeding schedule.

To compare, you would need to put HPA in the hands of someone who is used to growing by other means and has their system dialed in. Next you would need that person to run HPA side-by-side. The problem in comparing the 2 grows is that operator will need several grows to get the same feel for HPA.

HTH

 

i have a 50 gallon tote, with up to 6 plants. Will the quad be enough?

 

so unclenug's system is not a true aero cuz i can def see the droplets.

 

ohhh i see now.dude at the mgm grand in las vegas they got these type of mist sprayers at the pool areas its very cooling to the skin.
i see now op what ur talking bout

 

How does the true aero system feed seedlings. Or newly germinated seed,and how are they held in place??

 

CBS: The problem with the quad is it is one unit. Mist might have a difficult time reaching the far sides.

Depending on the length of the tote consider 2 doubles- one near each end- or 4 singles equal distant from one another.

Try positioning them on opposite sides so that when the pump comes on the mist swirls instead of bumping into one another.

Balla: Right again. After sprouting in unbleached paper towel, I put the seeds into S2G starter cubes. These I put into a small bubbler with 2 X 10" stones, which can also be used for clones.

HTH

 

S2G cubes work great when you figure out their shortcoming- the fibers do not separate under seedling power- the seedlings got stuck and died. I lost 6 seedlings because I inserted them too deep. They simply could not get out.

I solved this by cutting the fibers in the area of insertion.

I insert the cubes in PVC couplers from plumbing supply. I have journals with pics of the parts and grows on IC and 420. It would be in your best interest to check them out.

HTH